2017 Draft Prospects

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Meks

at least the defender had to chase him down...... think about that for awhile.

if i think about it for awhile as a negative nancy, i think:

1. he had a huge hole to run through
2. he was barely touched as he got into the open
3. he took the wrong angle
4. he almost ran into the ref for no apparent reason
5. a much faster player caught him from behind

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by los panda

he looks extremely talented, i don't like what i saw @ 2:33, though.

he took a terrible angle on the way to the end zone, essentially cutting the distance for the trailing defender instead of extending the distance. the defender was able to bring him down before he scored.

Well screw him then. He's obviously not very good. C'mon Panda. Did you see how many times he broke tackles and took the ball 50,60,70 yards? The defense would have to watch this guy constantly. Imagine the play action off having him in the backfield. And look how many times he took great angles away from the pursuit and had them falling on their ass.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Well screw him then. He's obviously not very good. C'mon Panda. Did you see how many times he broke tackles and took the ball 50,60,70 yards? The defense would have to watch this guy constantly. Imagine the play action off having him in the backfield. And look how many times he took great angles away from the pursuit and had them falling on their ass.

i thought i covered that w "extremely talented".

it wouldn't chap my ass if we grabbed him at 17, but i have a feeling he may not be there at 17.

[Meks]

I think he's gone by 17 for sure. And I hope we go D there... bPA im not opposed to, I just hope it's a Def player

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Meks

I think he's gone by 17 for sure. And I hope we go D there... bPA im not opposed to, I just hope it's a Def player

At 17 if we will take bpa on defense. Nobody that good on offense is falling to 17 without a reason, and we cannot afford gambles. Time to pay the piper and draft D in round 1.

[Chico23231]

Dalvin Cook is the pick if he is there at 17, but I just don't see Cook getting by Philly.

Right Now at 17 who I want and could qualify as BPA:

Ruben Foster or Dalvin Cook.

Im seeing Leonard Fornette falls in a lot of mock drafts too.

[punch it in]

Malik McDowell. Where's the beef?
Our most gaping hole is right up the damn middle. Has been for three years. This guy is a run stuffer that can also play the pass. He is my choice. He will be the perfect marriage of need plus bpa at 17.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Malik McDowell. Where's the beef?
Our most gaping hole is right up the damn middle. Has been for three years. This guy is a run stuffer that can also play the pass. He is my choice. He will be the perfect marriage of need plus bpa at 17.

McDowell has all the measurable things you want - in a 3-4 DE, not a nose. Also, he's been known to take off plays. I don't like that. Even so, I think the Skins would probably consider him at #17 as a DE..

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

McDowell has all the measurable things you want - in a 3-4 DE, not a nose. Also, he's been known to take off plays. I don't like that. Even so, I think the Skins would probably consider him at #17 as a DE..

He has. However he also had the ankle injury midway thru - couple that with the fear of ruining your future and a shit season for MSU and it is easy to see why. It is certainly not a plus, but maybe he is a totally different pro?

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He has. However he also had the ankle injury midway thru - couple that with the fear of ruining your future and a shit season for MSU and it is easy to see why. It is certainly not a plus, but maybe he is a totally different pro?

Bucky Brooks of the NFL network called McDowell the #1 boom or bust prospect in the draft yesterday. - he takes plays off- and frequently is not in the picture on tape.....quits, instead of pursuing the ball

to big of a risk at #17

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Bucky Brooks of the NFL network called McDowell the #1 boom or bust prospect in the draft yesterday. - he takes plays off- and frequently is not in the picture on tape.....quits, instead of pursuing the ball



to big of a risk at #17

KI mentioned it. Same response I gave him. When you have an injury, know you are a first round pick, and play on a crappy team - u are not going to give it ur all. See 2015 for this guys true performance capabilities.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Bucky Brooks of the NFL network called McDowell the #1 boom or bust prospect in the draft yesterday. - he takes plays off- and frequently is not in the picture on tape.....quits, instead of pursuing the ball



to big of a risk at #17

What if they traded down - picked up an extra pick and still got him?

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Malik McDowell. Where's the beef?
Our most gaping hole is right up the damn middle. Has been for three years. This guy is a run stuffer that can also play the pass. He is my choice. He will be the perfect marriage of need plus bpa at 17.

McDowell had 34 tackles including 1.5 sacks in 2016. Almost 1/3 of his tackles were against Northwestern.

He looks like tarzan and plays like jane. The Redskins can do much better @ #17.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

McDowell had 34 tackles including 1.5 sacks in 2016. Almost 1/3 of his tackles were against Northwestern.



He looks like tarzan and plays like jane. The Redskins can do much better @ #17.

This is so far off base. He missed 3 or 4 games first of all. Second of all he went up against a number of very good tackles throughout the year in the big ten. You cannot base his performance on tackles. He played all over the line (super versatile) and was a disruptive force against the run and the pass.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This is so far off base. He missed 3 or 4 games first of all. Second of all he went up against a number of very good tackles throughout the year in the big ten. You cannot base his performance on tackles. He played all over the line (super versatile) and was a disruptive force against the run and the pass.

so he is going to play against weaker competition in the NFL than the B1G ?

And a 6'6" "disruptive force " should have a least 1 PD, or 1 FF, or 1 Fumble recovered. Stats do not lie.

Malik McDowell Bio - Michigan State Official Athletic Site