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Old 04-19-2020, 12:30 PM   #241
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Nothing more dumb right now than people out protesting the stay at home orders, like seriously WTF





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Old 04-19-2020, 12:34 PM   #242
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This is what it is all about .
Lol the “help that gets to the needy”

FFS, small business owners are the hardest working people in the country to insult them as needy...lol. We are trying to subsidize their employees wages, rent, etc...we want them to keep paying there workers and not layoff in order to get over a 2 month hump.
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Old 04-19-2020, 12:37 PM   #243
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There are a lot of people who live paycheck to paycheck without a safety net or credit to get them by. Many of them through no fault of their own. They want to and need to get back to work. In many ways making a living by entering the workforce without trade school skills or an education is a lot more difficult than days gone by. I could write a book, but I will just give one example. Back when I graduated from High School 40 years ago passing an aptitude test could get you accepted as an apprentice in a trade where starting pay was two times minimum wage or more. Today trainees in those same trades are paid minimum wage.

Minimum wage was $2.90 an hour in 1979 when I was accepted in as a machinist apprentice and paid $5.85 an hour. About the only skill I had for the job was being a whiz at math. With a 45 hour work week which was industry standard, one week's take home wages paid my rent and I had no roommates kicking in.

Fast forward to the present, the entry level jobs like I took 40 years ago now pay minimum wage, plus housing costs have increased over and above the rate of inflation. Today that trainee job I took at a 45 hour a week will return $345 weekly less taxes. If anyone can rent a whole apartment monthly for that week's pay, raise your hand.

While I am disgusted with young people who grow up slow and whose life revolves around video games and constant attention to their cell phones, I will admit some things are harder on them than in past generations.
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Old 04-19-2020, 12:49 PM   #244
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Also sunnyside, why would pelosi and Schumar agree to the first installment of the PPP if there was this so-called biased plan? U are telling me they were complicit?

No they weren’t, because it a non issue...they are simply playing politics now in order to tack on liberal agenda ideals that don’t have to do with small business relief.

Don’t fall for it.
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:28 PM   #245
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I wish I could think the protests are about people wanting to work, but I think it’s more about that wacked out segment of the population that is anti government at all costs and believe any and all anti government conspiracy theories

In Austin TX they were chanting fire Fauci... that is some fucked up shit

Just as I’m typing this I came across an article that said the protest in Austin was organized by a host from a show on InfoWars... tells me all I needed to know


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/u...y-at-home.html


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Old 04-19-2020, 02:36 PM   #246
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Also sunnyside, why would pelosi and Schumar agree to the first installment of the PPP if there was this so-called biased plan? U are telling me they were complicit?

No they weren’t, because it a non issue...they are simply playing politics now in order to tack on liberal agenda ideals that don’t have to do with small business relief.

Don’t fall for it.
Chico, I’ve read article after article from various different aspects all saying the same thing. Hedge funds and well to do corporations with pre existing briskness relationships with big banks are getting the money and not the local mom and pop stores.

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This isn't the way the business rescue plan was supposed to work. Millions of small businessmen and women can't get to the front of the queue for desperately needed loans, while many healthy larger businesses are feeding at the trough and laughing at taxpayers all the way from the bank.

What happened is that thousands of financially healthy businesses are getting loans of $100,000 to $3 or $4 million and they are pocketing the money. They weren't going to lay off workers in the first place.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/small-bu...business-bucks

^^^ this is from Stephen Moore who is on trumps economic recovery team saying the same thing.

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Making sure the money gets to Main Street and not Wall Street is important before we give 350 billion more.

Besides, sounds like the new money will have Pelosi and Schumer’s restrictions so .... win for America, I think we can all support that.
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Old 04-19-2020, 03:04 PM   #247
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Lol small business loans go to small business...Regulatory controls that only allow for these operations along with client faced teams only in that space submit these loans.

U can continue to believe this these client faces groups are working togethe to circumvent these actions on that level while the wizard of oz sits behind the curtain at another level and
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Keep on chasing windmill buddy..:but remember, Nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer allowed for these egregious, biased based plan the first time several weeks ago when they voted for its approval...from what you are telling me, blood is on their hands then..
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Old 04-19-2020, 03:18 PM   #248
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Chico — I don’t know what more to say. I really don’t. This particular issue seems pretty clear .... this isn’t even a republican v Democrat problem. They rolled out the PPP as fast as they could and now that they can see the problems, they want to fine tune it so it goes to the people that actually need it when they do the second, third, fourth roll out.

I’m not slamming republicans for this ... except to the extent graham and a handful or republicans are resisting the fine tune and trying to claim “pelosi has blood on her hands” and that she is “playing politics”.

Making sure the money goes where it is intended to go is important and shouldn’t even be resisted by graham and co.

Besides ... sounds like the restrictions will be included so win for Main Street America.
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Old 04-19-2020, 03:33 PM   #249
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This dummy is probably anti-abortion as well.




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Old 04-19-2020, 04:57 PM   #250
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This dummy is probably anti-abortion as well.
..........that has nothing to do with this..........................
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Old 04-19-2020, 06:35 PM   #251
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This dummy is probably anti-abortion as well.

Yeah I don’t want to hear anyone who is in favor of prematurely reopening the economy even if it costs lives call themselves pro life ever again


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This dummy is probably anti-abortion as well.
Is that a dude or a chick? I cannot tell.
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:13 AM   #253
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The rightwing groups behind wave of protests against Covid-19 restrictions
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Old 04-20-2020, 10:46 AM   #254
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I mean you can't make this shit up: https://www.reddit.com/r/maryland/co...e_are/fnstpyl/

Like that is publicly available data and sure as shit looks MAD suspicious.
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Old 04-20-2020, 01:01 PM   #255
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I mean you can't make this shit up: https://www.reddit.com/r/maryland/co...e_are/fnstpyl/

Like that is publicly available data and sure as shit looks MAD suspicious.
MSM really needs to be all over this
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