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Old 07-02-2020, 12:58 PM   #2521
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Most understand Trump had no credibility to begin with.
Sure.

Now consider policy and actions towards the Russians during Trump’s administration. Yes his verbal bouquets are weak, Trump does this in an obnoxious way with a lot of world leaders...I have no clue why. But I can list a handful of aggressive actions towards Russian on the world stage which have limited their aggression on the world stage.
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Old 07-02-2020, 01:06 PM   #2522
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It would be nice to tell the whole story.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...243947307.html

Miami-Dade cop relieved of duty for hitting woman taunting him for ‘acting like you white’



Anderson complained that she had been denied entrance to a flight to Chicago because she arrived late, and no flight was available until the next day.

“I should go over there and punch him in the face,” she allegedly yelled about the ticketing agent, according to the arrest report.

Rodriguez said he ordered the woman to get her belongings so she could be escorted out. “That was when Ms. Anderson aggressively approached this officer violating this officer’s personal space, bumped [him] with her body and struck [him] with her head on his chin,” he wrote in his report.

Fuck this piece shit

1. Threatened multi people
2 racial taunts
3. Assault

I guess folks think she should have allowed to continued with her behavior. I support the officer 100000% with this one.
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Old 07-02-2020, 01:42 PM   #2523
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It would be nice to tell the whole story.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...243947307.html

Miami-Dade cop relieved of duty for hitting woman taunting him for ‘acting like you white’



Anderson complained that she had been denied entrance to a flight to Chicago because she arrived late, and no flight was available until the next day.

“I should go over there and punch him in the face,” she allegedly yelled about the ticketing agent, according to the arrest report.

Rodriguez said he ordered the woman to get her belongings so she could be escorted out. “That was when Ms. Anderson aggressively approached this officer violating this officer’s personal space, bumped [him] with her body and struck [him] with her head on his chin,” he wrote in his report.

Fuck this piece shit

1. Threatened multi people
2 racial taunts
3. Assault

I guess folks think she should have allowed to continued with her behavior. I support the officer 100000% with this one.
I heard the whole story, still doesn't justify hauling off and hitting her like that. Totally uncalled for and not proper procedure.
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Old 07-02-2020, 01:50 PM   #2524
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I heard the whole story, still doesn't justify hauling off and hitting her like that. Totally uncalled for and not proper procedure.
That article states otherwise. Diversionary tactic and her arrest was just.

She not a victim but a criminal. Once she makes contact, it’s over. Plus this piece of trash not wearing a mask either like that? Lock her up
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Old 07-02-2020, 01:55 PM   #2525
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That article states otherwise. Diversionary tactic and her arrest was just.

She not a victim but a criminal. Once she makes contact, it’s over. Plus this piece of trash not wearing a mask either like that? Lock her up
Sure arresting her was just, hitting her like that though? Lame. Guy lost his cool. Definitely excessive force. He said she head butted him, clearly a lie.
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:11 PM   #2526
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Sure arresting her was just, hitting her like that though? Lame. Guy lost his cool. Definitely excessive force. He said she head butted him, clearly a lie.
I think an interesting aspect is the racist language by her...how black, Hispanic cops have had to deal being called traitors.

The narratives not being covered by the media...how minority police have had to deal with this...they make up significant portion of the force in major urban sittings. Crickets.
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:14 PM   #2527
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If a cop can't handle a high stress situation he doesn't belong in the job. It comes with the territory unfortunately.
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Old 07-02-2020, 02:26 PM   #2528
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The statement by the department contradicts camera footage, as police claim Wheeler told Smith to “place his hands behind his back.”

The department said Smith “began to resist by pulling his arms forward and tensing his body,” prompting Wheeler to take him to the ground, but video footage shows Wheeler silently grabbing Smith from behind and telling him to put his hands behind his back only after Smith's arms are already pinned down.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/georgia-p...an-break-wrist
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A video showed officers in Buffalo, New York, pushing a 75-year-old man. Police initially said he had tripped and fell.
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The video also shows an officer approaching (officer) Baro behind the police line and asking if his body camera is off. Baro replies incorrectly that his camera is in stand-by mode and not recording. The two officers appear to laugh and joke about the people they shot with rubber bullets.

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All police need to have auto body cam recording that they cant "turn off" or cover up. The Louisville protestor who was shot and killed ... all the fucking police had camera issues during lethal force use?

At this point, imo ... officers words or reports can not be taken as true.

What ever honor or respect they had or demanded ... is gone imo.

Sad, I trust an officers word as much as I trust the person they have arrested at this point.

Perhaps I spent too much time on reddit watching police abuse video after police abuse video. Then you compare it to their "report" or find out the body cam was not "on" at the time.
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Turning off a body cam should be grounds for automatic termination
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If a cop can't handle a high stress situation he doesn't belong in the job. It comes with the territory unfortunately.
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I can't believe we have to have this conversation. It's a job dealing with the worst of society, if you can't handle it don't sign up.

I find it amazing how Chico can watch that video and determine she struck his chin with her head. The video is clear as day!!!!!

Totally agree on bodycam footage too.
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Old 07-02-2020, 03:17 PM   #2531
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Wonder how and how long until she "commits suicide".

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-e...shire-fbi-says
I'm giving it about a month. Let's play a clue style game here:

She commits suicide by strangling herself with a bedsheet while the guards are sleeping because they're being overworked and the cameras are all malfunctioning at the same time. Sound good?
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The whole thing is definitely nuts. And we're just at the tip of the iceberg on how much we know. Who knows how deep and wide this thing really is. It's all pretty fucking sickening.
Reminds me of The Wire when they're investigating Barksdale? money getting "donated" to Clay Davis. Ain't no telling where the money goes. Who knows how much blackmail Epstein had on high rollers, or what governments he was working with. I just wish Epstein/Maxwell/anybody who was involved would go down. Who cares if it's Clinton or Trump? Anybody who was connected deserves to rot.

I fear we're going to be on the outside looking in on this one for the rest of our lives though. Too many powerful people involved. Sure we might hear more stories about Maxwell bringing in girls, probably some horrendous shit too, but we're never going to know how many friends they had that were in on the act too.
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If a cop can't handle a high stress situation he doesn't belong in the job. It comes with the territory unfortunately.
You understand what assault is right?
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+10000

I can't believe we have to have this conversation. It's a job dealing with the worst of society, if you can't handle it don't sign up.

I find it amazing how Chico can watch that video and determine she struck his chin with her head. The video is clear as day!!!!!

Totally agree on bodycam footage too.
You understand what threats and assault is right?
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Threats and bodily contact...that’s it. Once the line is cross it’s over. She makes threats and he is backing up and she makes contact
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