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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by jamf

I don't have a good read on Mayfield but I don't think he is a franchise QB.
Hopefully he lands in a good spot so we can see what he can do.

I agree, I don’t think Baker is a franchise QB…that Browns team is/was pretty loaded on offense: Great RBs, Great Oline, decent TE group…Odell and Landry WR.

Defense not terrible

Either Baker or bad coaching…

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I agree, I don’t think Baker is a franchise QB…that Browns team is/was pretty loaded on offense: Great RBs, Great Oline, decent TE group…Odell and Landry WR.

Defense not terrible

Either Baker or bad coaching…

Well you had several people like Aikman and Phil Simms making fun of the offensive play calling with the Browns last year, saying it was like high school plays...is that the coach...or the coach not trusting Baker? Guess we'll find out when Watson takes over. It felt at times Baker was a gamer...but odds are he's not going to be anything special.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...mpleting-trade

The Browns didn't provide specifics of their investigation. They also didn't speak to any of the 22 women who have filed civil lawsuits against Watson and accused him of sexual assault and sexual misconduct, according to their attorney.

"The Browns organization did not reach out to me. I didn't expect them to do so, and can understand why they didn't. But, knowing what I know, they probably should have," attorney Tony Buzbee told ESPN.


But don’t worry folks, they did extensive research

Extensive research lol.

"Did you do it?"

"No."

"Great! How does the largest guaranteed contract in NFL history sound?"

[That Guy]

he has a 1mill base salary (for 2022), those forfeited paychecks will not matter at all. any suspension would just be a free vacation.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by That Guy

he has a 1mill base salary (for 2022), those forfeited paychecks will not matter at all. any suspension would just be a free vacation.

BTW welcome back That Guy, nice to see some older names back here again.

This is just the 7th layer in this 20 layer cake of "why talent trumps everything in the NFL" - they literally structured his contract in anticipation of the expected punishment so Watson can get around that too.

On one hand, the NFL obviously does so much trying to promote the game to women, with Breast Cancer Awareness month and all the other outreach they do.

Then they shoot their selves in the foot when a team does the single-highest guaranteed contract in the history of the NFL to a player with 22 sexual harassment/assault allegations against him. How do you expect to gain female fans when teams show their words are just hollow.

So glad we passed on this one and/or he didn't want us.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by mooby

BTW welcome back That Guy, nice to see some older names back here again.

This is just the 7th layer in this 20 layer cake of "why talent trumps everything in the NFL" - they literally structured his contract in anticipation of the expected punishment so Watson can get around that too.

On one hand, the NFL obviously does so much trying to promote the game to women, with Breast Cancer Awareness month and all the other outreach they do.

Then they shoot their selves in the foot when a team does the single-highest guaranteed contract in the history of the NFL to a player with 22 sexual harassment/assault allegations against him. How do you expect to gain female fans when teams show their words are just hollow.

So glad we passed on this one and/or he didn't want us.

We have a very male perspective on this NFL out reach I'd love to know more on what females think about it. Anecdotally I know my wife can't stand the NFL and doesn't watch it any more. She returned for a brief moment when Ray Rice was shit canned for domestic abuse and then the following seasons the NFL started going soft and giving slap on the wrists and she was out again.

[EdmundDorf]

Cheap? $18m guaranteed. Given Wentz confidence then bringing in veteran competition is almost guaranteed to make that trade a failure, its a bit touch and go as it is

[MTK]

lol Baker isn't coming here to compete for a job.

Plus you don't give up picks for Wentz and then throw him into a competition.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

lol Baker isn't coming here to compete for a job.

Plus you don't give up picks for Wentz and then throw him into a competition.

Ron made it clear that Wentz is QB1 for the forcible future in his presser

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by MTK

lol Baker isn't coming here to compete for a job.

Plus you don't give up picks for Wentz and then throw him into a competition.

Florio thinks he ends up in Detroit to compete with Goff. It'll be interesting to see if Seattle is interested in him. If not nor Detroit, who knows? The rest of his career should be interesting considering his background and Cleveland sudden's divorce from him.

[MTK]

I'd put BM in the top 15-20 range. He had an excellent 2020 season (10th in QBR) but really fell off last year due to injuries.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'd put BM in the top 15-20 range. He had an excellent 2020 season (10th in QBR) but really fell off last year due to injuries.

If I'm a QB desperate team like the Panther, Seattle, Detroit, or New Orleans, I would rather have him over Jimmy G and his bum shoulder, or even Jameis. I guess it depends of what the compensation is going to look like for Baker.

[WCommandersfan99]

Mayfield played on a bum shoulder last year leading to the poor season. He got surgery to resolve it in January. He was much better prior to last year when healthy and nearly beat KC in the playoffs. Don't think the kid is the next Marino, but I would definitely not write him off yet.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If I'm a QB desperate team like the Panther, Seattle, Detroit, or New Orleans, I would rather have him over Jimmy G and his bum shoulder, or even Jameis. I guess it depends of what the compensation is going to look like for Baker.

Really starting to wonder what Seattle and Carolina are going to do at qb. Carroll reportedly loves Lock:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/pete-...ship-drew-lock

Carolina is a crapshoot. Nothing would surprise me with the qb position and them. They were the only team to really give Darnold a chance.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Skinsinator

Really starting to wonder what Seattle and Carolina are going to do at qb. Carroll reportedly loves Lock:

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/pete-...ship-drew-lock

Carolina is a crapshoot. Nothing would surprise me with the qb position and them. They were the only team to really give Darnold a chance.

If I'm a QB with options, I'm not going to Carolina. Matt Rhule's days are counted, and he'd likely be fired at the end of this season, unless he pulls a miracle.