Tom "Iceman" Brady

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

[stats] can only show who is giving the best results.

I disagree here. Stats can't show who is giving the best results, because those stats depend on the rest of the team. For example, the receivers, the o-line, the defense, etc. We can't measure the intangibles (i.e.: leadership and poise) -- which are NOT dependent on the rest of the team -- so we're left to our own intuition. My intuition tells me that Brady has more poise. You don't have a stat for it, so you disregard it. For shame.

[wilsowilso]

I'm pretty sure Chad Jackson really messed up his hamstring and missed the entire preseason as well as the begining of the season because of it. Then he reinjured it and basically it screwed up his whole rookie year. I mean I know he is a Florida receiver, but I think he might be pretty good for them. He had three td's in limited action.

[GTripp0012]

I think that ultimately, successful quarterbacks must be able to complete a high percentage of their passes. It's really all they can control. Brady certainly does this well, but Manning does it better.

[wilsowilso]

This thread needs to go to bed now. It's very sleepy. Hard to argue when everyone has so much firepower one way or the other. Good luck to Manning in the Super Bowl.

[The Huddle]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

This thread needs to go to bed now. It's very sleepy. Hard to argue when everyone has so much firepower one way or the other. Good luck to Manning in the Super Bowl.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I've said my piece and would agree that it's at least time to put this thing into deep freeze and possibly revisit it later. Excellent points made on both sides about two great QBs. Nobody seems ready to concede anything anytime soon, but Brady's season is over and Manning has the stage to himself now.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by The Huddle

I can't speak for anyone else, but I've said my piece and would agree that it's at least time to put this thing into deep freeze and possibly revisit it later. Excellent points made on both sides about two great QBs. Nobody seems ready to concede anything anytime soon, but Brady's season is over and Manning has the stage to himself now.

I think you said it best: "this thread farts cobwebs" ... lol, great mental picture.

[SmootSmack]

I agree. While it's fun to have these "who's better" debates we shouldn't do it at the expense of appreciating two of the greatest QBs in NFL history playing right now right before our eyes. They're both outstanding and I only hope we can one day talk about Jason Campbell in the same way.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

The guy just led his team to another Super Bowl win IMO. He is a freak of nature. Anyone wanna bet who wins next week between Indy and NE. I will say San Diego handed that game away with some pitiful turnovers, but Brady made them pay. By the way having a rookie quarterback start for you in the playoffs is a recipe for going home no matter how good your team may be. New England is mostly no names with a few great players and the sickest QB I've ever seen play.

Tom Brady is the best football player in the NFL.

Ever.

This is my thread from a long time ago. Before Brady even threw 50 TD's,
but after the 3 Rings.

It turned into a Brady vs Manning thing, but I challenge any Warpath Member to try not to get embarrassed by me by arguing that there is another QB better.

Today? Or yesteryear?

Manning? No way.

GTRIPP?

Tom Brady is the ICEMAN.

[MTK]

I think someone has a man crush.

Best player ever? I'm not even sure he's the best QB ever.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think someone has a man crush.

Best player ever? I'm not even sure he's the best QB ever.

I don't even like the Patriots, but I know football.

Most of the time.

I have made a jack-ass of myself many times on this site. (:

Brady is the best NFL PLAYER.

EVER.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I don't even like the Patriots, but I know football.

Most of the time.

I have made a jack-ass of myself many times on this site. (:

Brady is the best NFL PLAYER.

EVER.

You're certainly entitled to that opinion. Wrong as it may be.

[hooskins]

LOL, I love the epic bumps. People are going back through their old threads and seeing where they hit.

I do think Brady is one of the best ever, but I do also think Manning has always had a worst OL and D around him. He had to make all the adjustments on his own. Now it would be sweet if we lived in a test tube world and could take Manning, put him on the Pats for all those years and see how he would've done. Or Brady on the Colts.

Bracing for embarrassment....

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by hooskins

LOL, I love the epic bumps. People are going back through their old threads and seeing where they hit.

I do think Brady is one of the best ever, but I do also think Manning has always had a worst OL and D around him. He had to make all the adjustments on his own. Now it would be sweet if we lived in a test tube world and could take Manning, put him on the Pats for all those years and see how he would've done. Or Brady on the Colts.

Bracing for embarrassment....

Although not a perfect example to back my thoughts but when Brady went down Cassel looked great with the Pats, but Collins has looked so-so this season with the Colts. Perhaps one can argue, Cassel did so well because the parts around him are better than what the Colts have provided Collins. Ergo, the better team (Pats) allowed Brady a better chance at success than Manning has ever had with the Colts.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by hooskins

LOL, I love the epic bumps. People are going back through their old threads and seeing where they hit.

I could go back FOUR weeks to the THREAD I started where I GUARANTEED that Rex Grossman would be the starting QB this year.

I said everyone could make fun of me if I was wrong.

It was just after halftime of the BUCS preseason game.

When all the Redskins Insiders and most of this BOARD had been convinced that Beck was the starter.

For a more recent QB hit?

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I could go back FOUR weeks to the THREAD I started where I GUARANTEED that Rex Grossman would be the starting QB this year.

I said everyone could make fun of me if I was wrong.

It was just after halftime of the BUCS preseason game.

When all the Redskins Insiders and most of this BOARD had been convinced that Beck was the starter.

For a more recent QB hit?

Quit you day job and buy a one-way ticket to Bristol. SS told me they take walk-ons. I am sure you will give Dilfer a run for his money.