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05-12-2024, 09:31 AM | #1 |
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It is odd but it still feels good to see the feathers again. If we became the Warriors the feathers wouldn't seem odd at all, just nice and comfortable. If it's OK to be the Chiefs, then it should be OK to be the Warriors.
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05-12-2024, 06:52 AM | #2 |
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I would buy that shit if they just had the W on it. Get rid of that shit stain name. But this is at least something that is going in the right direction.
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05-12-2024, 10:08 AM | #3 |
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Maybe they are gonna go with Comanches. They wouldn’t even have to change the first three letters , lol, and Comanches were the toughest mother fuckers in the land. Even Apaches were afraid of them.
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05-12-2024, 02:41 PM | #4 |
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Comanche's would be nice but one issue is the traditional logo was a member of the Blackfeet tribe.
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05-13-2024, 03:05 PM | #5 |
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05-12-2024, 04:10 PM | #6 | |
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Also, what do the Commanches have to do with the D.C. area? Aren't they a western tribe? There was a tribe called the Nacotchtank that had a settlement on the east bank of the Anacostia River at the time D.C. became the nation's capital but that name doesn't sound very elegant to my ears.
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Redskins was a derogatory term. Comanche isn’t. Chief isn’t. Brave isn’t. Seminole isn’t. As far as your question about relation to the city well What does Titan have to do with Tennessee. Or Ravens and Baltimore. Was there a tribe of Giants that lived in Manhattan? Did Raiders run rampant in Oakland? Tons of examples in all sports. I personally don’t care if the name is tied to the city, and it opens up the options. |
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But your point that there need not be a strong connection of name to geography isn't wrong -- the Cardinals kept the name even though they originated in St. Louis (and was the other Cardinals team in that city). Which reminds me that there's really no reason not to use the same name from another sport -- it shouldn't create any consumer confusion, which is the touchstone of trademark infringement. Having said that, I doubt they'd re-name the football team the Nationals (which I find bland), Capitals (same), Wizards (terrible name), or United (which I actually like a lot).
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You know as I made that comment about Baltimore and the Ravens I actually thought about googling it to see… interesting. |
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Sadly, it'll never come back, I know. But it was never derogatory. Anyway, Raise Hail I guess... |
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https://slate.com/human-interest/201...s-history.html Couple of Examples "....Before all this recent scholarship, though, one could be forgiven for thinking redskin had emerged from hostilities with the white man. For many years the first citation in the Oxford English Dictionary was dated 1699 and purported to come from Samuel Smith. It read, “Ye firste Meetinge House was solid mayde to withstande ye wicked onsaults of ye Red Skins.” It had been quoted from family papers in a book published in 1900 by Helen Evertson Smith. But Goddard’s research undermined this earliest of citations. First, he explains, Smith’s words were “relentlessly antiqued”—made to appear older than they were. One giveaway was the use of ye, which was anachronistic for 1699. By investigating the underlying documentation Goddard further discovered a probable source for the quotation, bearing a different date and the word Indian, which Helen Evertson Smith had modified to redskin...." "....the Post published a column by Eva Rodriguez, trotting out the bloody-scalp origin story. Goddard responded by writing a letter to the editor. First, he stated clearly that only current feelings about the word were relevant to determining whether redskin is offensive today, and then he objected strenuously to Rodriguez’s amateur scholarship: What is not acceptable is for her to give as the only relevant historical fact the fictional claim that the word originally referred to scalps, for which there is no evidence. But the Post’s letters editor would not allow Goddard to call the bloody-scalp claim “fictional,” and so deleted the word from his letter...." https://law.marquette.edu/facultyblo...-so-offensive/ "....There is little evidence that the perception of “redskin” as an inherently offensive term for Native American existed before the late 1970’s or early 1980’s. Traditionally, the word “redskin” was viewed as a synonym for Indian or Native American and did not carry the sort of negative connotations that have long attached to ethnic slurs like ...." (I stopped the quote at this point to avoid any possible term violations) |
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So not going down this road. Lol. U can find both sides of the coin on the internet. Ive read it is. Ive read it isn’t. Fact of the matter is it is up for debate. Unlike seminoles, chiefs, braves, etc. That was my only point. The name will never be Redskins again. Hopefully one day soon it isn’t Commanders. Red Hawks and keep the feathers?? |
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05-14-2024, 10:49 PM | #13 |
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that's is a great name !!! gotta figure they had to consider that and if NOT someone f'd up 😀
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05-12-2024, 10:16 AM | #14 |
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Just seeing that shirt put me in a damn good mood today. :-)
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05-12-2024, 11:06 AM | #15 |
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It would be an even better mood if our second round steal of the draft didn’t have a foot surgery coming up for the other foot. Wonder if that is what caused him to drop a little? Meaning the original foot but maybe the other foot having issues was known? I have no idea about the injury or if it is the type of thing that lingers? When will he be ready to go?
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