Should we be drafting Tua???

[sdskinsfan2001]

If the Bengals make the right choice and take the best player (Young), we should trade down and hope Okudah or Simmons is still available. If not, select the best available OT.

[SunnySide]

Rivera was asked specifically about trading the second overall choice.

Young, though, likely won’t be available if Washington trades the pick.

“If you’re going to make a trade and you’re going to go back, that guy you’re going to take at that spot has to be able to make the kind of impact you need to validate missing an opportunity to take a player that’s a high-impact guy,” Rivera said. “In other words, if you’re going to pass up Player A and you go back, and you’re going to take Player D, Player D has to be equal to Player A because if Player A is going to play for you for 10 years and Player D may not, then did you really get value or did you just get a whole bunch of picks? You’ve got to be able to sit there and say that the next guy that I’m going to take is going to be that high-impact guy, and that’s what I’m looking for. That’s what I believe we need is we need a guy that’s going to come in and really change our football team. To me, there’s a few guys on that board that are those kind of players.”​​​

Young is one of those impact players that Rivera referenced without calling the Ohio State edge rusher by name. Gil Brandt of NFL Media calls Young “the surest pick in the first round.”

Young had 16.5 sacks and six forced fumbles last season.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-in-its-sight/

RR seems to value 1 high impact guy vs multiple draft picks.

I like it.

Skins last all pro ... punter Matt Turk in 1996.

We are the only team without an All Pro named in the last decade.

I want elite, game changing talent. Having a Ryan Kerrigan or Orakpo or Murphy or Preston Smith .. its nice. They are nice players. Kerrigan can take over the right side of an O line against a depth RT and its great. I want a guy who can take over the LT 8-10 games a year.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Rivera was asked specifically about trading the second overall choice.

Young, though, likely won’t be available if Washington trades the pick.

“If you’re going to make a trade and you’re going to go back, that guy you’re going to take at that spot has to be able to make the kind of impact you need to validate missing an opportunity to take a player that’s a high-impact guy,” Rivera said. “In other words, if you’re going to pass up Player A and you go back, and you’re going to take Player D, Player D has to be equal to Player A because if Player A is going to play for you for 10 years and Player D may not, then did you really get value or did you just get a whole bunch of picks? You’ve got to be able to sit there and say that the next guy that I’m going to take is going to be that high-impact guy, and that’s what I’m looking for. That’s what I believe we need is we need a guy that’s going to come in and really change our football team. To me, there’s a few guys on that board that are those kind of players.”​​​

Young is one of those impact players that Rivera referenced without calling the Ohio State edge rusher by name. Gil Brandt of NFL Media calls Young “the surest pick in the first round.”

Young had 16.5 sacks and six forced fumbles last season.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-in-its-sight/

RR seems to value 1 high impact guy vs multiple draft picks.

I like it.

Skins last all pro ... punter Matt Turk in 1996.

We are the only team without an All Pro named in the last decade.

I want elite, game changing talent. Having a Ryan Kerrigan or Orakpo or Murphy or Preston Smith .. its nice. They are nice players. Kerrigan can take over the right side of an O line against a depth RT and its great. I want a guy who can take over the LT 8-10 games a year.

Can I get an Amen!??

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Can I get an Amen!??

I've always been pro drafting Young. Amen brother. My Tua argument was and always will be if you have a chance to draft a true franchise QB then you do it, regardless of whether you have someone like Young on the table. If Tua did not have all the injuries then I'd say take him and trade DH. End of discussion. But that is not the case.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I've always been pro drafting Young. Amen brother. My Tua argument was and always will be if you have a chance to draft a true franchise QB then you do it, regardless of whether you have someone like Young on the table. If Tua did not have all the injuries then I'd say take him and trade DH. End of discussion. But that is not the case.

That's all I was saying as well, Tua is the better QB it's really the truth but his injury past is a big deal so I'm all for Young who is a great player! I'm happy either way and even if we trade I'm cool with that. The team is rebuilding clearly.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I've always been pro drafting Young. Amen brother. My Tua argument was and always will be if you have a chance to draft a true franchise QB then you do it, regardless of whether you have someone like Young on the table. If Tua did not have all the injuries then I'd say take him and trade DH. End of discussion. But that is not the case.

HOF QB > HOF pass rusher > HOF LT ... I wonder what the 4th best position would be. HOF CB or HOF LB?

10 years of Kuechly or 10 years of Ramsey? Give me the HOF LB.

(just throwing 2 names out there, love Kuechly but not sure if his shortened career is HOF worthy and Ramsey has quieted down/still lots of years left)

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I've always been pro drafting Young. Amen brother. My Tua argument was and always will be if you have a chance to draft a true franchise QB then you do it, regardless of whether you have someone like Young on the table. If Tua did not have all the injuries then I'd say take him and trade DH. End of discussion. But that is not the case.

Tua is an excellent passer. But I'll make the same argument against him people made against Haskins. It's not hard to be accurate when you're throwing the ball to three potential first round wrs. Most qbs lucky to have one top tier wr. Tua had three of them. In the defense of Tua. I don't like the idea of discrediting a guy based on the talent around him. The reason I would pass on Tua isn't just the fact that needed to have three surgeries in three years. It's the fact that he's slow to get up after every big hit. This man is a career ending injury waiting to happen. Tua having a short career is more likely than him going to the hall of fame. Is Tua more polished than Dwayne Haskins? He definitely is without a doubt. But Haskins can developed into a very good qb. He just needs time. Tua on the other hand might not last to see his second contract.

[AnonEmouse]

If you offered me Ray Lewis or Deion Sanders, I'd take Sanders
If you offered me Brian Urlacher or Darrell Green, I'd take Green

Not saying that would be everyone's choice, but that would be mine.

In any case in this instance, I'd honestly say I think CY has a better chance of HoF status than TT right now. I can just see him being another Andrew Luck and retired in 5-7 years.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

If you offered me Ray Lewis or Deion Sanders, I'd take Sanders
If you offered me Brian Urlacher or Darrell Green, I'd take Green

Not saying that would be everyone's choice, but that would be mine.

In any case in this instance, I'd honestly say I think CY has a better chance of HoF status than TT right now. I can just see him being another Andrew Luck and retired in 5-7 years.

Give me Ray all day. I can ignore Dieons side of the field and game plan around him ... or run to his side lol.

Ray was sideline to sideline. You couldnt play around him.

[Meks]

no.

[Meks]

Still no

[rocnrik]

Just read Urban Myers take on Haskins .. simply if the redskins want Haskins to be all he can be they need to get play makers around him...okay so when is that going to happen ? Whiffed in free agency .. gonna pick Chase and then what ? So we have a good D and a Offense that flat sucks ..this team needs a real TE.. a Stud Wr and O line help ! But we gonna have a pass rusher ..I’m all in at giving Haskins a chance but he is going to need help ..

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Just read Urban Myers take on Haskins .. simply if the redskins want Haskins to be all he can be they need to get play makers around him...okay so when is that going to happen ? Whiffed in free agency .. gonna pick Chase and then what ? So we have a good D and a Offense that flat sucks ..this team needs a real TE.. a Stud Wr and O line help ! But we gonna have a pass rusher ..I’m all in at giving Haskins a chance but he is going to need help ..

Found that interesting as well, and I agree. Terry is not enough, we need another WR and a TE or 2. RB's are solid but I just don't see how he can shine with the lack of weapons around him..

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Just read Urban Myers take on Haskins .. simply if the redskins want Haskins to be all he can be they need to get play makers around him...okay so when is that going to happen ? Whiffed in free agency .. gonna pick Chase and then what ? So we have a good D and a Offense that flat sucks ..this team needs a real TE.. a Stud Wr and O line help ! But we gonna have a pass rusher ..I’m all in at giving Haskins a chance but he is going to need help ..

No competent GM would pass up a generational talent who plays DE regardless of the other needs of the team. So let's just forget about the possibility of the Skins not drafting CY.

After that the Skins can draft all offense, as far as I'm concerned.

[skinsfaninok]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...qb-jordan-love

The team is looking at all first rd QBs but in all fairness Ron said he would