Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[irish]

I cant understand why any NFL player would ever fully trust the team doctor. Team doctors are paid by the team and will error on the side of the team. If I was an NFL player I'd have my own doctor on a retainer and forget about the team doctor.

If the Skins can get something good for TW they should trade him. The last thing this team needs to do is over pay and over extend this guy. He's a good player but is older and often injured, they dont need millstone contract on this team.

[skinsfaninok]

Yeah I don't see Trent holding out like Bell did, I think he's just looking to see if Bruce will budge.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah I don't see Trent holding out like Bell did, I think he's just looking to see if Bruce will budge.

Dunno. TW is a walk the walk kind of guy, not a lot of BS in him. That is why he has respect in the locker room. Folks like that say what they mean. If the skins want to keep him they need to take his grievance seriously or he will leave.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Kope

Dunno. TW is a walk the walk kind of guy, not a lot of BS in him. That is why he has respect in the locker room. Folks like that say what they mean. If the skins want to keep him they need to take his grievance seriously or he will leave.

I'm pretty sure a lot of what Trent is reportedly "saying" is coming from his agent.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Kope

Dunno. TW is a walk the walk kind of guy, not a lot of BS in him. That is why he has respect in the locker room. Folks like that say what they mean. If the skins want to keep him they need to take his grievance seriously or he will leave.

He is under contract for 2 more years. He can't "leave." He ultimately has three choices:
1) Play and receive nearly 30 million dollars over the next two years.
2) Hold out and lose 30 million dollars over the next two years, and become a free agent in 2021 at 33 years old. He will never make back the money he missed.
3) Retire and lose 30 million over the next two years. The redskins hold his right forever, so he can never sign with another team.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

He is under contract for 2 more years. He can't "leave." He ultimately has three choices:
1) Play and receive nearly 30 million dollars over the next two years.
2) Hold out and lose 30 million dollars over the next two years, and become a free agent in 2021 at 33 years old. He will never make back the money he missed.
3) Retire and lose 30 million over the next two years. The redskins hold his right forever, so he can never sign with another team.

So is this a contract situation or a health injury situation ?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Giantone

So is this a contract situation or a health injury situation ?

There was only one "report" alleging it was completely about the medical situation with the tumor and he'd vowed to never play for the team again. But this came from a source that is not particularly credible. Within 24 hours, numerous credible sources refuted that report.

That said, we honestly don't know for sure because Trent hasn't spoken publicly, and even if he did, we couldn't trust him because players say all sorts of things when engaged in a holdout.

Based on the limited information we have, my guess is that the tumor on his head gave him a scare (as it would anyone). He realized life is short, he only has a few years left to make significant money, and he needs to make the most of it. He sees Oakland make a lesser player the highest played o-lineman in the league and he looks at the skins situation behind him. Nseke left for Buffalo. Geron Christian is still hurt. Erick Flowers looks horrible. Williams and his agent likely realized he will never have more leverage than he does now, so they decided to use it.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Kope

Dunno. TW is a walk the walk kind of guy, not a lot of BS in him. That is why he has respect in the locker room. Folks like that say what they mean. If the skins want to keep him they need to take his grievance seriously or he will leave.

I totally agree. Do not seeing him going back on his word, and if they weren’t his words he has had ample time to clear the air.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I totally agree. Do not seeing him going back on his word, and if they weren’t his words he has had ample time to clear the air.

If TW is wanting a new contract, and his agent has put out information to try and help him get a new contract, TW would be a complete idiot to "clear the air." What could he possibly have to gain by saying anything publically?

The thing some here are having a hard time remembering is that all these "reports" are ultimately meaningless. The only thing that matters is what's been said in the private conversations that TW and/or his agent have had with the team.

Neither side has anything to gain by making public statements. And while everyone is getting all worked up about this, we must remember that there is really nothing remarkable about the reports we've heard. Its the same kind of stuff that happens between dozens of players and their teams every year. There is no reason to be overly concerned until we get to maybe week 3 of the preseason.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If TW is wanting a new contract, and his agent has put out information to try and help him get a new contract, TW would be a complete idiot to "clear the air." What could he possibly have to gain by saying anything publically?



The thing some here are having a hard time remembering is that all these "reports" are ultimately meaningless. The only thing that matters is what's been said in the private conversations that TW and/or his agent have had with the team.



Neither side has anything to gain by making public statements. And while everyone is getting all worked up about this, we must remember that there is really nothing remarkable about the reports we've heard. Its the same kind of stuff that happens between dozens of players and their teams every year. There is no reason to be overly concerned until we get to maybe week 3 of the preseason.

Do you honestly believe he is making things up about our medical doctors and bluffing about leaving for a new contract? That happens all the time? What is the point of that? Players hold out for new contracts all the time without such charades. He is sick and tired of this idiot franchise and he aint never setting foot on a field in the B&G again....

[skinsfaninok]

Things have quieted down a bunch, I'd imagine Bruce reached out to Trent or his agent, just assuming here but there hasn't been any other "trade demands"

[Chico23231]

Fans are tired of the bullshit....look at the local ratings and the empty stadium last year. The Trent story seems par for the course

Sorry the FO doesn't get a pass based on recent history. Its a clown show.

Also, past players dissatisfaction with the team doc and the way the team handled injuries is well documented....Keim has spoken about it being a concern. Also the team has been the most injured the last several years.

This is cumulative story at this point...the Trent situation just continues it.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Fans are tired of the bullshit....look at the local ratings and the empty stadium last year. The Trent story seems par for the course

Sorry the FO doesn't get a pass based on recent history. Its a clown show.

Also, past players dissatisfaction with the team doc and the way the team handled injuries is well documented....Keim has spoken about it being a concern. Also the team has been the most injured the last several years.

This is cumulative story at this point...the Trent situation just continues it.

I never said that the FO should get a pass, I'm just tired of misinformed fans taking bullshit stories as the gospel in here.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I never said that the FO should get a pass, I'm just tired of misinformed fans taking bullshit stories as the gospel in here.

Yeah because this team always comes out waving the redemption flag and smelling like roses. Hahaha. Where have you been for the last three decades dude?
Just stop with the fake news, nothing to see here bullshit. Where there is smoke there is always fire with this dumpster.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I never said that the FO should get a pass, I'm just tired of misinformed fans taking bullshit stories as the gospel in here.

That's what you get when your GM/President only does national interviews(Combine, SB, Post Draft) and completely shuns the local press.
If Bruce isn't willing to deal with these issues head on, don't expect much leeway from the reporters that cover the team everyday.