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Old 02-25-2018, 01:25 AM   #1
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Lamar Jackson is RGIII 2.0
I agree 100%. The guy would have to gain like 20-30 lbs before I would even considering putting him out there. Guy is built like RG III, maybe even slimmer, plus his stats melt away when he is up against primo competition most of the time. He wouldn't have been so prolific in the SEC or even the Big Ten.
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Old 02-25-2018, 01:34 AM   #2
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[QUOTE=30gut;1189096]Switching up my stance. I'm off Mayfield @ pick 13.
Partially because its rumored that he won't be there but more because I've been watching more YouTube cut-ups and I think Lamar Jackson is the sleeper prospect in this draft and if he's there at 13 you gotta take him.[/QUOT

We have bigger needs than at QB. We need RB, WR, and DB upgrades before QB. No decent running game=no playoffs for the foreseeable future. Also, the more I see of this QB class, the more I think it is overhyped.
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Old 02-25-2018, 09:35 AM   #3
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To Ivar and refutable...how much of Lamar Jackson have you watched?

Since it appears we're not having a discussion and just posting 1 liners here's mine:

Lamar Jackson is Aaron Rodgers.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:15 PM   #4
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To Ivar and refutable...how much of Lamar Jackson have you watched?

Since it appears we're not having a discussion and just posting 1 liners here's mine:

Lamar Jackson is Aaron Rodgers.
My one liner is: I think it was a mistake not drafting a QB a few years ago.
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Old 02-26-2018, 11:42 AM   #5
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With so many areas of need and the depth of this draft, trading back from 13th for additional picks is probably the best plan for the Redskins. I said the same last year, however, but somehow Allen fell to us and it was a no brainer. Sometimes a chance at an elite starter outweighs multiple shots at good starters. With that said, I've started thinking about who are the guys in this draft I would take at 13 over a trade back. There are at least 10 other guys if be very happy with at 13, but feel like we could still get if we traded back, they're not at a position of need, not a great fit, could get close value to at same position with a later pick, etc. Here's my list:

Barkley
B. Chubb
Fitzpatrick
Nelson
Edmonds
Smith
Ridley
Payne
Vea

Do you agree? What does your list look like?

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Old 02-26-2018, 11:49 AM   #6
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Re: Looking at the draft.

Agree with trading back, a move to trade down and recoup a pick to help with the loss of Fuller would be wise. Fitzpatrick, Smith, and Payne are the three who are most appealing for me, personally, but there are others for sure. Ultimately I'm a fan of having more swings of the bat. Moving down to acquire more assets is a good move, if there's a willing trade partner.
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Old 02-26-2018, 12:02 PM   #7
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Agree with trading back, a move to trade down and recoup a pick to help with the loss of Fuller would be wise. Fitzpatrick, Smith, and Payne are the three who are most appealing for me, personally, but there are others for sure. Ultimately I'm a fan of having more swings of the bat. Moving down to acquire more assets is a good move, if there's a willing trade partner.
I'm all for trading down too.
Mainly because there aren't many difference makers at positions of need for us available in FA.
So we'll to find some of them in the draft.
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:16 PM   #8
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IMO, there is no way to assess if we should trade back or not until we see if there is a difference-maker available at #13. Remember how lucky we got in last year's draft when Jonathan Allen fell to us.
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:44 PM   #9
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IMO, there is no way to assess if we should trade back or not until we see if there is a difference-maker available at #13. Remember how lucky we got in last year's draft when Jonathan Allen fell to us.
Yeah almost all trade downs occur when you're on the clock. I think that's what we all mean when we say look to trade down.
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Old 02-26-2018, 03:25 PM   #10
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Yeah almost all trade downs occur when you're on the clock. I think that's what we all mean when we say look to trade down.
To be completely honest my judgement may be tainted by the fact I have very little knowledge of college football talent.
So, yeah, a lot can happen between now and the moment we're on the clock.

But the way I see our needs (#1WR, RB, LG, DT/NT, CB - btw what are we waiting for to sign Zach Brown?), and the lack of exciting opportunities in FA, I think 3 or 4 picks in the first 3 rounds could be better than just 2 as it stands now...
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Old 02-26-2018, 07:07 PM   #11
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Re: Looking at the draft.

Vita Vea gets more attractive at 13 almost daily, I trust Mayock, a Dancing Bear (freak).

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Old 02-26-2018, 11:14 PM   #12
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Vita Vea gets more attractive at 13 almost daily, I trust Mayock, a Dancing Bear (freak).

Mike Mayock: Six QBs in play for first round of 2018 NFL Draft - NFL.com
I think the fear on him was being type cast as a 2 down player.

Cooley broke him down on the show the other day and really hyped him up compared to his initial observation and statement pre-breakdown.

He doesn't have the moves that Payne has, but essentially should be able to take a center or guard and put them in the QBs lap. Freakish size and strength. Next to Allen and Ionnidas, he would be unbelievable.

Caveat is, I think Payne would be a solid pick as well and definitely has more twitch.
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Old 02-26-2018, 07:10 PM   #13
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Re: Looking at the draft.

What is the Skins sign Poe?

Do they still draft a NT?

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What is the Skins sign Poe?

Do they still draft a NT?

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No, I wouldn't think so. Too mamy holes to sign someone and draft someone at 13 on the defensive line. Although, you can never have too much beef, so I actually wouldn't be opposed to double dipping.
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Old 02-26-2018, 08:14 PM   #15
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Re: Looking at the draft.

“As far as interior offensive line class, the top end of it’s really good," Mayock said in a conference call on Monday.

Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson is a likely top-10 pick and one of the safest players in the draft, and after Nelson, Mayock said there are seven interior linemen who project solidly to go in the top three rounds.
The top spot on our list is a no-brainer. Nelson is the best lineman in the draft, arguably the top lineman in the country, and the only offensive lineman in my Top 10 list (third on that list). I have raved about him throughout the season, and he should be a top-10 pick in the 2018 draft, if not a top-5. He plays with elite power, technique, and awareness. He has agility and balance in pass protection, and all the “nasty” you could ask for.
This would solidify our o-line and solve our power running game woes.
With all of the reaching that happen every year for qb's and that Nelson is a guard, this guy could be there at 13. At 6' 5" and 345 pounds he is described as mean.

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