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Old 09-06-2013, 12:52 PM   #1
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I just wish we could free ourselves from the Great Oil Dependency so that we could let these backwaters of civilization go their own way and extinguish themselves through their own shortsighted pride.
We could have, but we chose Hope and Change instead.


When I saw we, I don't include me.


But hey, look on the bright side, the oceans have receded and everyone who wants a cell phone has one.
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Really? the "most modern legal system" in all of Arabia? Charging the victims with homosexuality and fornication?
One of your better posts, JR. wordy but wise, sir.

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Old 08-15-2013, 12:58 PM   #3
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not a good time to go see the pyramids, horrible whats going on over there. We shouldnt support this
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:29 PM   #4
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not a good time to go see the pyramids, horrible whats going on over there. We shouldnt support this

Talk about a weird time , even the New President of Iran is telling them to calm down .
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Old 08-19-2013, 08:58 AM   #5
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Egypt turmoil deepens; militants kill 25 policemen

Real ugly over there.



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not a good time to go see the pyramids, horrible whats going on over there. We shouldnt support this
Hate to say it but our military would do the same to us if we revolted. Don't believe so, just look at history to see how wrong of a assumption that would be. People in power will do anything to stay in power.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:15 PM   #6
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Egypt turmoil deepens; militants kill 25 policemen

Real ugly over there.





Hate to say it but our military would do the same to us if we revolted. Don't believe so, just look at history to see how wrong of a assumption that would be. People in power will do anything to stay in power.
This is the same military that helped the people over throw the last goverment in Egypt. So they go both ways. LOL
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:59 PM   #7
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Hate to say it but our military would do the same to us if we revolted. Don't believe so, just look at history to see how wrong of a assumption that would be. People in power will do anything to stay in power.
You think our military would fire on protestors? Or basically that incident could happen here...I really dont think so.

I dont know, think someone turned the lights off on you in the assumption room and locked the door.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:23 PM   #8
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You think our military would fire on protestors? Or basically that incident could happen here...I really dont think so.

I dont know, think someone turned the lights off on you in the assumption room and locked the door.
Really? I suggest you look up Kent State shooting and see the results. Military personnel firing on protestors.

May 4, 1970: The Kent State University shootings told through pictures (PHOTOS).


Why do people act as if that it won't happen here? Sure, there are many military men that would refuse that order, but there are many that would not. Especially when you have your superior officers telling you that they are "terrorists" or the "bad guys". We've seen our military men blasting away civilians at ease and being quite casual about it.




To think our own military would not fire on us is laughable at best. History and current events show otherwise.
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Really? I suggest you look up Kent State shooting and see the results. Military personnel firing on protestors.

May 4, 1970: The Kent State University shootings told through pictures (PHOTOS).


Why do people act as if that it won't happen here? Sure, there are many military men that would refuse that order, but there are many that would not. Especially when you have your superior officers telling you that they are "terrorists" or the "bad guys". We've seen our military men blasting away civilians at ease and being quite casual about it.




To think our own military would not fire on us is laughable at best. History and current events show otherwise.
Your going to use a war zone to make a point that our military will fire on people.
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Really? I suggest you look up Kent State shooting and see the results. Military personnel firing on protestors.

May 4, 1970: The Kent State University shootings told through pictures (PHOTOS).


Why do people act as if that it won't happen here? Sure, there are many military men that would refuse that order, but there are many that would not. Especially when you have your superior officers telling you that they are "terrorists" or the "bad guys". We've seen our military men blasting away civilians at ease and being quite casual about it.




To think our own military would not fire on us is laughable at best. History and current events show otherwise.

Since Kent state was made the example here , just a reminder that the military on campus were "reservist" (weekend warriors) not fulltime military personnel , many of them were the same age as the students .None of this makes this right but it was a different time maybe you don't think it matters but you would be wrong .
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:39 PM   #11
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We've seen our military men blasting away civilians at ease and being quite casual about it.

To think our own military would not fire on us is laughable at best. History and current events show otherwise.

Kent State aside being that it was 43 years ago ,when have we seen our military personnel blasting away civilians at easy as you say and please name all the other times this has happen as you say History and current events will show us ?
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Old 08-16-2013, 01:26 PM   #12
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Probably using the money and guns Obama sent them.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:55 PM   #13
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Egypt in terms of importance/influence within the region is maybe just behind Saudi Arabia. Not a good situation now. Probably should stop writing checks
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:46 PM   #14
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I guess some people will never learn you don't throw rocks at tanks or at people with guns.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:40 PM   #15
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Kent St is a good example, but Im pretty positive Kent St doesnt happen today. just an opinion. History is just that history, it can mos def repeat itself in some instances, I just dont think we would see that today. I think Kent St military acted independently of government direction, where in Egypt I think both were in on this plan of violence. Both acts equally disturbing.
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