Chaos at the Capitol: New thread edition

[MTK]

silence lol, didn't realize we're supposed to talk about every single damn thing going on in the world otherwise we're somehow ignoring it, just bring something up if you want to talk about it

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

silence lol, didn't realize we're supposed to talk about every single damn thing going on in the world otherwise we're somehow ignoring it, just bring something up if you want to talk about it

This is the part that is frustrating. But when you think about it, it's completely understandable.

You're (every person here including myself) just way less likely to bring up negative issues about someone or the party you generally support. It's just human condition. And you're way more likely to point out issues of the people you don't support. And there are more liberals here than conservatives, which makes sense based on where the team is located. So as a conservative, me expecting most of you to come in here and bash BIden, AOC, etc. on a regular basis is simply not realistic. But it still gets frustrating. Damn brain is weird. I know the reasons, but still don't always accept them.

Below isn't a direct response to you, just a general comment about the border:

NO ONE WANTS KIDS IN CAGES! It didn't put a smile on my face when it was happening under Trump and it doesn't now. But there are no easy answers to how to handle thousands and thousands of people coming across our border regularly. We need to deter people from coming here illegally and work on upgrading the legal immigration process. Until people feel their chances of getting here and staying are way less than their chances of being arrested and sent back, people will continue to come. Why wouldn't they? They're just playing the math.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

This is the part that is frustrating. But when you think about it, it's completely understandable.

You're (every person here including myself) just way less likely to bring up negative issues about someone or the party you generally support. It's just human condition. And you're way more likely to point out issues of the people you don't support. And there are more liberals here than conservatives, which makes sense based on where the team is located. So as a conservative, me expecting most of you to come in here and bash BIden, AOC, etc. on a regular basis is simply not realistic. But it still gets frustrating. Damn brain is weird. I know the reasons, but still don't always accept them.

Below isn't a direct response to you, just a general comment about the border:

NO ONE WANTS KIDS IN CAGES! It didn't put a smile on my face when it was happening under Trump and it doesn't now. But there are no easy answers to how to handle thousands and thousands of people coming across our border regularly. We need to deter people from coming here illegally and work on upgrading the legal immigration process. Until people feel their chances of getting here and staying are way less than their chances of being arrested and sent back, people will continue to come. Why wouldn't they? They're just playing the math.

If they jump the wall they should be sent back immediately. Your first instinct coming into this country is to do it the right way, not break the law.

People should do it the right way.

Biden effed all this up when he told folks to come and surge towards the border while running for president.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If they jump the wall they should be sent back immediately. Your first instinct coming into this country is to do it the right way, not break the law.

People should do it the right way.

Biden effed all this up when he told folks to come and surge towards the border while running for president.

Proof? If he spoke it, surely there's a video of it somewhere.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Proof? If he spoke it, surely there's a video of it somewhere.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chi...outputType=amp

Column: Biden called for the border surge. And now he owns it.

From the article, he said it at the debate on tv:

Ramos: “Are you prepared to say tonight that you and President (Barack) Obama made a mistake (on deportations)? Why should Latinos trust you?”
Biden answered by criticizing Donald Trump’s handling of migrants at the border, defending Obama’s, and adding:


I would in fact make sure that there is, that we immediately surge to the border — all those people are seeking asylum. They deserve to be heard,” Biden said. “That’s who we are. We’re a nation that says, ‘If you want to flee and you’re fleeing oppression, you should come.’”


Biden, you dropped this receipt for your crisis

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If they jump the wall they should be sent back immediately. Your first instinct coming into this country is to do it the right way, not break the law.

People should do it the right way.

Biden effed all this up when he told folks to come and surge towards the border while running for president.

chico's answer for anyone coming in across the Boarder....................

a human catapult.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

This is the part that is frustrating. But when you think about it, it's completely understandable.

You're (every person here including myself) just way less likely to bring up negative issues about someone or the party you generally support. It's just human condition. And you're way more likely to point out issues of the people you don't support. And there are more liberals here than conservatives, which makes sense based on where the team is located. So as a conservative, me expecting most of you to come in here and bash BIden, AOC, etc. on a regular basis is simply not realistic. But it still gets frustrating. Damn brain is weird. I know the reasons, but still don't always accept them.

Below isn't a direct response to you, just a general comment about the border:

NO ONE WANTS KIDS IN CAGES! It didn't put a smile on my face when it was happening under Trump and it doesn't now. But there are no easy answers to how to handle thousands and thousands of people coming across our border regularly. We need to deter people from coming here illegally and work on upgrading the legal immigration process. Until people feel their chances of getting here and staying are way less than their chances of being arrested and sent back, people will continue to come. Why wouldn't they? They're just playing the math.

Definitely understandable, also since this is a football forum that's what we mainly talk about. I look at a forum like this as a fun distraction, but I'm not going to sit here and discuss every news headline of the day and I don't expect anyone else to either.

[Chico23231]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp
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Capitol Police officer Brian D. Sicknick, who engaged rioters, suffered two strokes and died of natural causes

All this beat with a fire extinguisher, etc...these were fake news narratives pushed by a dishonest media for political purposes.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp
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Capitol Police officer Brian D. Sicknick, who engaged rioters, suffered two strokes and died of natural causes

All this beat with a fire extinguisher, etc...these were fake news narratives pushed by a dishonest media for political purposes.

Are you saying the media intentionally knew the fire extinguisher story was false but pushed it anyways? Or they did not verify the story before pushing it? Because there's a big difference in the two.

Originally Posted by WaPo

Diaz’s ruling does not mean Sicknick was not assaulted or that the violent events at the Capitol did not contribute to his death. The medical examiner noted Sicknick was among the officers who engaged the mob and said “all that transpired played a role in his condition.”

^ The part of your article that caught my eye.

It's safe to conclude based upon the article that the events were not the main contributor to his death, but I don't think it's safe to conclude the events of the day did not contribute at all.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Are you saying the media intentionally knew the fire extinguisher story was false but pushed it anyways? Or they did not verify the story before pushing it? Because there's a big difference in the two.



^ The part of your article that caught my eye.

It's safe to conclude based upon the article that the events were not the main contributor to his death, but I don't think it's safe to conclude the events of the day did not contribute at all.

Nobody should be reporting rumors as facts. If a source gives you information real journalists confirm it...

Instead they print shit that fits their narrative. NYT is prints fake news more than ever. The fall of the grey lady is quite pathetic. How you could believe anything they print knowing how they performed as a unit the last 5 years is beyond me.

Also if it takes you 3 months to complete an autopsy where a person dies of stroke, then you are severely incompetent or this information was withheld. This obviously was withheld for to be used as a political tool, which it was.

the death certificate confirms he was not killed by anyone

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ck/7128040002/

So stroke unfortunately killed the officer, 2 other had heart attack and another died from a meth overdose. 3 due to naturally causes...one drugs

The only one killed intentionally was the unarmed woman in the Capitol.

Hopefully when you hear the “deadly” Capitol riots...you actually know the proper context. Don’t ever expect the media to be honest, always be skeptical

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Nobody should be reporting rumors as facts. If a source gives you information real journalists confirm it...

Instead they print shit that fits their narrative. NYT is prints fake news more than ever. The fall of the grey lady is quite pathetic. How you could believe anything they print knowing how they performed as a unit the last 5 years is beyond me.

Also if it takes you 3 months to complete an autopsy where a person dies of stroke, then you are severely incompetent or this information was withheld. This obviously was withheld for to be used as a political tool, which it was.

the death certificate confirms he was not killed by anyone

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ck/7128040002/

So stroke unfortunately killed the officer, 2 other had heart attack and another died from a meth overdose. 3 due to naturally causes...one drugs

The only one killed intentionally was the unarmed woman in the Capitol.

Hopefully when you hear the “deadly” Capitol riots...you actually know the proper context. Don’t ever expect the media to be honest, always be skeptical

chico your ignorance knows no bounds.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

chico your ignorance knows no bounds.

I cant even read it anymore. Its just regurgitated bullshit. Imagine if a blm member killed a cop? He would be soooo up in arms. But when a Trumper kills one it was “natural causes”. LOL. Yeah what a day huh? Guy gets bear sprayed and beat by fuckin trumpers and also has a stroke that kills him? What are the chances? FUCKING ZERO.

[punch it in]

Blood pressure also tends to increase when you're stressed and when blood pressure is consistently high, it can narrow or weaken blood vessels. This makes it easier for blood clots to form or for vessels to leak or burst, triggering a stroke.

But Im sure this particular stroke had nothing to do with stress and blood pressure. Unfortunately it just happened hours after he was attacked in a FUCKING RIOT AND INSURRECTION
GTFOH CHICO

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Blood pressure also tends to increase when you're stressed and when blood pressure is consistently high, it can narrow or weaken blood vessels. This makes it easier for blood clots to form or for vessels to leak or burst, triggering a stroke.

But Im sure this particular stroke had nothing to do with stress and blood pressure. Unfortunately it just happened hours after he was attacked in a FUCKING RIOT AND INSURRECTION
GTFOH CHICO

My Dad died from "strokes", yes they are natural causes but can be brought on by multiple things . Yes he was killed by the protesters.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

My Dad died from "strokes", yes they are natural causes but can be brought on by multiple things . Yes he was killed by the protesters.

RIP to your dad. I'm fortunate to still have both of my parents. And I take it for granted way too often. Probably one of, if not, my worst qualities.

That officer wasn't killed by protestors. But he would probably still be alive it that didn't happen on 1/6. And go back and look at any of my post, I never once stuck up for that bullshit.

Not directed towards you specifically, I think we all (some more than others), try to win the argument as we see fit, and that's all that matters (that is definitely me sometimes).