Parkland Shooting

[sdskinsfan2001]

If people want to get rid of the 2nd amendment, there is a way for this to be completed.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-...stitution.aspx

1. Congress may submit a proposed constitutional amendment to the states, if the proposed amendment language is approved by a two-thirds vote of both houses; or

2. Congress must call a convention for proposing amendments upon application of the legislatures of two-thirds of the states (i.e., 34 of 50 states); and

3. Amendments proposed by Congress or convention become valid when ratified by the legislatures of, or conventions in, three-fourths of the states (i.e., 38 of 50 states).

[sdskinsfan2001]

This man is a fucking boss:



https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/cbp-of...save-daughter/

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

This man is a fucking boss:



https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/cbp-of...save-daughter/

Hero is a better description.

[Chico23231]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-u...ry?id=81466453

It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."


Imagine wanting more gun control but being in favor releasing violent offenders and not prosecuting folks caught with illegal guns.

Defund the police was a failure as well.

Wanting only gun control when a mass shooting occurs and ignoring the gun violence historical highs in the past two years…hypocritical Democrats.

Here catch up with the mass shooting archive, links the stories with info

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting

Also all I hear is bitching, no solutions.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-u...ry?id=81466453

It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."


Imagine wanting more gun control but being in favor releasing violent offenders and not prosecuting folks caught with illegal guns.

Defund the police was a failure as well.

Wanting only gun control when a mass shooting occurs and ignoring the gun violence historical highs in the past two years…hypocritical Democrats.

Here catch up with the mass shooting archive, links the stories with info

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting

Also all I hear is bitching, no solutions.

chico stop with all your BS you're as bad as the rest of the GOP assholes. There was no defund the Police situation in this shooting or in Buffalo, comparing these incidents to a rise in crime in the cities is fucking stupid. To blame the Dems because the GOP won't pass gun laws shows how ignorant and studed you are.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-u...ry?id=81466453

It's just crazy': 12 major cities hit all-time homicide records

Nobody’s getting arrested anymore," Boyce said. "People are getting picked up for gun possession and they're just let out over and over again."


Imagine wanting more gun control but being in favor releasing violent offenders and not prosecuting folks caught with illegal guns.

Defund the police was a failure as well.

Wanting only gun control when a mass shooting occurs and ignoring the gun violence historical highs in the past two years…hypocritical Democrats.

Here catch up with the mass shooting archive, links the stories with info

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting

Also all I hear is bitching, no solutions.

chico stop with all your BS you're as bad as the rest of the GOP assholes. There was no defund the Police situation in this shooting or in Buffalo, comparing these incidents to a rise in crime in the cities is fucking stupid. To blame the Dems because the GOP won't pass gun laws shows how ignorant and stupid you are.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

chico stop with all your BS you're as bad as the rest of the GOP assholes. There was no defund the Police situation in this shooting or in Buffalo, comparing these incidents to a rise in crime in the cities is fucking stupid. To blame the Dems because the GOP won't pass gun laws shows how ignorant and stupid you are.

Let me fact check you again, defund the police movement…an established failure…removed police and security from schools across the country:

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/de...-floyd/2021/06

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-school-police

To blame democrats polices in an increase in violence across the country especially in cities with the highest increases is absolutely backed by the data. They are responsible as they run these shithole cities sometimes 30-60 years straight. They are refusing to prosecute gun crime, which is a fact backed by the data…if you refuse to prosecute gun charges, where is the logic in in additional measures…when the measures don’t stop it in the shitholes they run?

Let me remind you also again, democrats are in charge of both houses of congress and the presidency.

To compare the mass shooting in Buffalo and Texas to violence across the country is also viable. As you and other leftist do, you only pay attention to mass shootings when it’s politically comfortable: here again is the mass shooting archive, get familiar with the offenders and victims as well as the places where these occur:

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting

Or simply ignore it as it doesn’t fit your narrative.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Let me fact check you again, defund the police movement….

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Let me fact check you again, defund the police movement…an established failure…removed police and security from schools across the country:

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/de...-floyd/2021/06

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-school-police

To blame democrats polices in an increase in violence across the country especially in cities with the highest increases is absolutely backed by the data. They are responsible as they run these shithole cities sometimes 30-60 years straight. They are refusing to prosecute gun crime, which is a fact backed by the data…if you refuse to prosecute gun charges, where is the logic in in additional measures…when the measures don’t stop it in the shitholes they run?

Let me remind you also again, democrats are in charge of both houses of congress and the presidency.

To compare the mass shooting in Buffalo and Texas to violence across the country is also viable. As you and other leftist do, you only pay attention to mass shootings when it’s politically comfortable: here again is the mass shooting archive, get familiar with the offenders and victims as well as the places where these occur:

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/mass-shooting

Or simply ignore it as it doesn’t fit your narrative.

STFU,

[CRedskinsRule]

Past 10 years per year:
# of abortions per year >700,000 (assuming 1% viability rate) > 7,000 children lives lost

# of late term abortions (after 20 weeks) - *stats are less easy to find so only 2015* >17000 - 1% elective = 1,700

# of children killed/injured per year by gun violence - <1000


my point is not to negate the need for better mental health and gun laws, but much like mooby says how pro-lifers care more for the unborn than the living, I don't understand why those kids killed before birth are so much less discounted than children who have been born.

Both of these things are blights on the fabric of the US, and they are destroying our nation every day.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Past 10 years per year:
# of abortions per year >700,000 (assuming 1% viability rate) > 7,000 children lives lost

# of late term abortions (after 20 weeks) - *stats are less easy to find so only 2015* >17000 - 1% elective = 1,700

# of children killed/injured per year by gun violence - <1000


my point is not to negate the need for better mental health and gun laws, but much like mooby says how pro-lifers care more for the unborn than the living, I don't understand why those kids killed before birth are so much less discounted than children who have been born.

Both of these things are blights on the fabric of the US, and they are destroying our nation every day.

You honestly don't understand the difference between an abortion, a medical procedure and a nut job with a assault gun walking into a school and blowing away kids and Teachers?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You honestly don't understand the difference between an abortion, a medical procedure and a nut job with a assault gun walking into a school and blowing away kids and Teachers?

I understand the difference, I also understand the end results.

a few differences:
A medical procedure is entirely preventable through appropriate laws and practices.

An evil person with evil intent is far harder to prevent regardless of the laws in place.
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An abortion, not due to medical necessity/rape/incest, is highly preventable by people taking responsibility for their actions, and using appropriate protection

A nut job with no previous history is not highly preventable but could be better perceived if our mental health system were not so poorly funded.

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The world would be a better place if killing innocents through any means was treated as equal evils.

Life is precious, what we do to protect life says a lot about us and our society, and right now our society fails both on abortions and guns.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I understand the difference, I also understand the end results.

a few differences:
A medical procedure is entirely preventable through appropriate laws and practices.

An evil person with evil intent is far harder to prevent regardless of the laws in place.
___
An abortion, not due to medical necessity/rape/incest, is highly preventable by people taking responsibility for their actions, and using appropriate protection

A nut job with no previous history is not highly preventable but could be better perceived if our mental health system were not so poorly funded.

___

The world would be a better place if killing innocents through any means was treated as equal evils.

Life is precious, what we do to protect life says a lot about us and our society, and right now our society fails both on abortions and guns.

In your opinion. The two are completely different things and different discussions and should be treated as such.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I'm all for discussing how to keep people that have previously committed gun crimes and/or are evil and/or have mental health issues from getting guns. We also need to find, charge, and try people that make terroristic threats. Posting about shooting up a school is way worse to me than lots of things people go to jail for in this country. Those people who are found guilty either need to be sent to prison or a mandatory mental health facility.

I'm OK with raising the age to own guns to 21 as well. We have rights, but we also don't just give every right to every person at any age. There is a certain level of growth and maturity required for lots of things we do in America.

What I'm not OK with on any level, is banning any law abiding citizen of age from owning any type weapon they want. That is not right and un-American. So what if I don't "need" a semi-automatic gun. If I want one, that's my prerogative as an American under the constitution.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I'm all for discussing how to keep people that have previously committed gun crimes and/or are evil and/or have mental health issues from getting guns. We also need to find, charge, and try people that make terroristic threats. Posting about shooting up a school is way worse to me than lots of things people go to jail for in this country. Those people who are found guilty either need to be sent to prison or a mandatory mental health facility.

I'm OK with raising the age to own guns to 21 as well. We have rights, but we also don't just give every right to every person at any age. There is a certain level of growth and maturity required for lots of things we do in America.

What I'm not OK with on any level, is banning any law abiding citizen of age from owning any type weapon they want. That is not right and un-American. So what if I don't "need" a semi-automatic gun. If I want one, that's my prerogative as an American under the constitution.

I agree with all of this.