NFL offseason 2025

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

He is asking more than he's currently valued at for his age. He can play under his current contract or stay home and not get paid. His choice. Peters isn't going to cave to his excessive request.

If he is asking for 30 a year he is not asking for too much. I have yet to see or hear anything concrete about what he is asking for though.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by punch it in

If he is asking for 30 a year he is not asking for too much. I have yet to see or hear anything concrete about what he is asking for though.

Adam Schefter is stating he wants more than Metcalf which his is about 33 million annually. Way more than any receiver of his age will get.

[That Guy]

metcalf is 5/150, which is 30 annually, but it's really 3/86.5 (~29m annually). he's same production (generally) and 2 years younger though.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

metcalf is 5/150, which is 30 annually, but it's really 3/86.5 (~29m annually). he's same production (generally) and 2 years younger though.

Per PFT:

When receiver D.K. Metcalf was traded to the Steelers, he received a new contract. The five-year, $150 million deal replaces the final year of his prior contract, at $18 million. The new-money average, then, is $33 million per year.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...k-metcalf-deal

This is a huge reason why it is doubtful that the Terry extension gets done. Steelers basically overpaid for Metcalf. Terry believes, as do many, that he is the superior wr and wants to be compensated as such. Not going to happen with his age. Firmly believe Peters will work with Terry some on the numbers but not to his total demands.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

Per PFT:

When receiver D.K. Metcalf was traded to the Steelers, he received a new contract. The five-year, $150 million deal replaces the final year of his prior contract, at $18 million. The new-money average, then, is $33 million per year.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...k-metcalf-deal

This is a huge reason why it is doubtful that the Terry extension gets done. Steelers basically overpaid for Metcalf. Terry believes, as do many, that he is the superior wr and wants to be compensated as such. Not going to happen with his age. Firmly believe Peters will work with Terry some on the numbers but not to his total demands.

look at the structure of the deal, the last two years are fake. 23m + 5m roster bonus and 30.5m with 5m roster bonus (no guarantees) - that's 63.5m he's never going to see. in 3 years his cash earnings from that deal will be 86.5m. I'm not going to count garbage. If that's the game, let's give terry 200m non-guaranteed on year 4 and he can average 50m/year while making $0.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_...100/dk-metcalf

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

look at the structure of the deal, the last two years are fake. 23m + 5m roster bonus and 30.5m with 5m roster bonus (no guarantees) - that's 63.5m he's never going to see. in 3 years his cash earnings from that deal will be 86.5m. I'm not going to count garbage. If that's the game, let's give terry 200m non-guaranteed on year 4 and he can average 50m/year while making $0.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_...100/dk-metcalf

OK I guess you know more than Pro Football Talk and former attorney and editor Mike Florio. Every other site is reporting his salary at 33 million average. This is what Terry wants to exceed which Peters won't provide. He will play under his current contract or sit.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

OK I guess you know more than Pro Football Talk and former attorney and editor Mike Florio. Every other site is reporting his salary at 33 million average. This is what Terry wants to exceed which Peters won't provide. He will play under his current contract or sit.

instead of being dismissive, why not try to actually understand what people are saying. that link has his contract breakdown, it also says 33m average, but that's a pointless, garbage number. Click on the cash breakdown. after 3 years, he'll have ACTUALLY put 86.5m IN HIS POCKET. His REAL earnings are slightly under 29m/year (over the first 3 years, which is the only money he's ever going to see from this).

Inflating the contract value with money he's never going to get doesn't change that; it's not real.

[Meks]

Florio is a bum, also.

[That Guy]

Please make sure you're reading the post you're replying to. I didn't say that wasn't the average (I even said it is). I said measuring contracts solely on average value is silly, because that has no bearing on actual earnings by the player.

We offer Terry 0m, 0m, 0m, 200m = 50m average, cut him year 3, no cost to us, and he gets a 50m average deal. that's my point. We offer him 90m guaranteed, 0/0/0 base = he makes 90m day 1, and at year 3 he's 3.5m AHEAD of the guy with the 33m average contract (a 12.5mill differential from just taking the averages).

DK's last 2 years are at 29m and 36.5m that have no guaranteed money (and at that point he'll be 30), so that's a very obvious cut point unless he's destroying the league, because you could find someone cheaper. He could be cut a year earlier I guess, but 6m more deadcap, 3m less salary and still under 30. That was mainly to apples/apples since we're generally thinking Terry is wanting 3 years.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Please make sure you're reading the post you're replying to. I didn't say that wasn't the average (I even said it is).

I am reading what I am replying to every time. Yes, you did say average since you don't recall.

Your post below:

"that link has his contract breakdown, it also says 33m average"

Not only are you arguing with a point I never made, but you are contradicting yourself now. I do not want to discuss this with you anymore. Please take it up with Adam Schefter and all these other national sites that are using the 33 million average as a consistent reference. The fact that you are literally acting like you know Pittsburgh will cut Metcalf years prior to his contract end is unbelievable. This is your argument which is invalid since you have no clue how long Pittsburgh will want him for. Metcalf is a dude and nearly 2 1/2 years younger than Terry.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

I am reading what I am replying to every time. Yes, you did say average since you don't recall.

Your post below:

"that link has his contract breakdown, it also says 33m average"

Not only are you arguing with a point I never made, but you are contradicting yourself now. I do not want to discuss this with you anymore. Please take it up with Adam Schefter and all these other national sites that are using the 33 million average as a consistent reference. The fact that you are literally acting like you know Pittsburgh will cut Metcalf years prior to his contract end is unbelievable. This is your argument which is invalid since you have no clue how long Pittsburgh will want him for. Metcalf is a dude and nearly 2 1/2 years younger than Terry.

Dude, learn to read. You're responding to things I'm not actually saying and obviously (purposefully?) missing the point. I said I picked 3 years since that's what most people are talking about for a terry contract and that's when DK's contract has no more guaranteed money, which is often when players get dumped. I was also just pointing out that contract money is more nuanced than just the average. Please show me the contradiction? I have never said the average is not the average.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Dude, learn to read. You're responding to things I'm not actually saying and obviously (purposefully?) missing the point. I said I picked 3 years since that's what most people are talking about for a terry contract and that's when DK's contract has no more guaranteed money, which is often when players get dumped. I was also just pointing out that contract money is more nuanced than just the average. Please show me the contradiction? I have never said the average is not the average.

As I stated in last my last post, I'm not talking about this with you anymore. You are trying to contort what you said and your argument of assumptions as opposed to facts. I read as others read what you wrote. Very clear to see you argument is baseless and contradicting numbers being reported. Whatever makes you feel better though.

[sdskinsfan2001]

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

As I stated in last my last post, I'm not talking about this with you anymore. You are trying to contort what you said and your argument of assumptions as opposed to facts. I read as others read what you wrote. Very clear to see you argument is baseless and contradicting numbers being reported. Whatever makes you feel better though.

The contract numbers listed on sportstrac are assumptions and baseless? Once again, please tell me about these fake contradictions you keep bringing up. My numbers match the source I linked that you've also used, so... what the hell are you even talking about?

weak dude. do better.

[Meks]

Lol i see rulers must have gone on sale early for back to school this year........