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Old 04-09-2021, 09:14 AM   #1
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I agree. I’d be more into it if it was a more seasoned QB that wasn’t so raw we were talking about.
I think he has great upside but we've already seen the 1 year QB that had "all the tools" I think Lance is better than DH but still.. It's a huge gamble
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Old 04-09-2021, 09:00 PM   #2
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The Trey Lance hype train is really picking up.. I just don't see us trading into the top 7 to get him but what do I know?
I watched a little of Lance. Jimminy F-ing X-mas does that guy have a strong arm. Takes more than that to be a QB in NFL of course, but I was blown away. Not like all-time strong, but this is really a deep class for QBs. A lot of years he would be 2nd overall QB. Not saying you should trade farm for him, but man does he have arm strength. He also seems to have only average accuracy at best, which mental aside, is probably primary determinant of NFL success. So who knows. I'm not a pro scout, but you watch the guy throw and I think some team before us takes him for sure, possibly in top 10. Watching him throw, top 5 doesn't sound ridiculous, for some team desperate for QB help.

I would guess that FO has very quietly determined approximate price of moving up to different spots in draft--before draft day desperation ups the price, which is why SF probably made deal early.
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Old 04-09-2021, 09:06 PM   #3
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I think if the FO trades up, and I don't like the idea, the thinking might go something like this. In any other year, you'd have to trade up top-10 to get a player like (QB X), but if one falls, you can get him trading up less high, because class is so deep. So the cost less punitive this year than will be future year. I again don't buy the argument, but it is not preposterous either, especially if you think we'll be 5 spots lower in draft next year.

It is not like there is ever going to be a year where top-10 teams all have QBs, but Rodgers others drafted later in draft.
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Old 04-09-2021, 09:21 AM   #4
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https://washingtonfootballwire.usato...021-nfl-draft/
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Given what I've read about Lance maybe he's worth trading up for, but I can't see that trade coming before draft day at least, simply because he could easily be the 49ers target all along, and given it's almost nailed on that would only leave Fields and Jones available, at #4 you wouldn't risk trading up to top 10 if you had no chance of getting the guy you want. I'm betting we don't want Fields after one OSU QB burnt us already and I don't see us giving up a lot for a chance at Jones. So I wouldn't trade up unless we had a guarantee of getting Lance.

I'd still strongly consider Jones if he fell to #19 but I wouldn't trade into the top 10 for him.
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The Trey Lance comparisons to Cam Newton are laughable.

Since when did ND State play an SEC schedule? With only one year of play under his belt, Lance is the riskiest pick of QB's going.

Kellen Mond has a much higher floor with over 45 starts on his resume, and is as arguably as athletic, as Lance. And could be had in the 3rd or maybe 4th round. If he busts out, you only missed with a 3rd or 4th round pick.

I'd also throw the Stanford QB out there as a better option.

Praying that this is a huge smoke screen ....
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The Trey Lance comparisons to Cam Newton are laughable.

Since when did ND State play an SEC schedule? With only one year of play under his belt, Lance is the riskiest pick of QB's going.

Kellen Mond has a much higher floor with over 45 starts on his resume, and is as arguably as athletic, as Lance. And could be had in the 3rd or maybe 4th round. If he busts out, you only missed with a 3rd or 4th round pick.

I'd also throw the Stanford QB out there as a better option.

Praying that this is a huge smoke screen ....
I'm fine with trading up to like 13 to get Lance but into the top 6? No way
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The Trey Lance comparisons to Cam Newton are laughable.

Since when did ND State play an SEC schedule? With only one year of play under his belt, Lance is the riskiest pick of QB's going.

Kellen Mond has a much higher floor with over 45 starts on his resume, and is as arguably as athletic, as Lance. And could be had in the 3rd or maybe 4th round. If he busts out, you only missed with a 3rd or 4th round pick.

I'd also throw the Stanford QB out there as a better option.

Praying that this is a huge smoke screen ....
They are. Lance will probably be a much better QB.
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Old 04-09-2021, 01:00 PM   #9
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Now the media is just getting stupid. I highly doubt Rivera would do this after the smart approaches he's taken to free agency signings over the last 2 years. He's about high value moves.

https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/footb...310/trey-lance

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QB, COLLEGE PLAYER

The Athletic's Michael Lombardi reports the Washington Football Team could "unload all their picks" to move up in the NFL Draft and select North Dakota State's Trey Lance.
"I think they love Lance. I don't think, I know Washington loves Lance," Lombardi said on a recent GM Shuffle Pod. "I think they're willing to go get him." The Football Team trading away a bunch of picks to move into Atlanta's No. 4 draft spot would upend the entire draft, changing plans for most teams outside the top five or six selections. Lance in Washington would hardly be ideal for Terry McLaurin, as the Football Team would most likely operate a run-heavy offense centered on Lance and Antonio Gibson. Even if he gets the Week 1 gig, Ryan Fitzpatrick could once again be usurped by a rookie if Washington lands Lance.

RELATED: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Taylor Heinicke
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Now the media is just getting stupid. I highly doubt Rivera would do this after the smart approaches he's taken to free agency signings over the last 2 years. He's about high value moves.

https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/footb...310/trey-lance
LOL I wish the draft was tonight
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Must be an echo in here with these Lance rumors.
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It's so dumb. NO WAY WFT is trading into the top 10 for Lance. I hope Atlanta takes him at 4.
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Old 04-09-2021, 03:51 PM   #13
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I don't think it's realistic that we'd trade up to 4, but what if he starts to slide down towards the 10-12 range? That's probably when teams will start calling.

In the end if he's the next Mahomes there's no price that's too much.
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Old 04-09-2021, 07:54 PM   #14
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Trading all of our picks for an unproven, 1 year starter is the most Redskinsey thing I’ve ever heard.
It must be true.. 😢
Hopefully some other poor fool of a team will save us from ourselves. 😁
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Old 04-10-2021, 04:18 AM   #15
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Trading all of our picks for an unproven, 1 year starter is the most Redskinsey thing I’ve ever heard.
It must be true.. 😢
Hopefully some other poor fool of a team will save us from ourselves. 😁
Is the shadow of Dan Snyder lengthening as the sun goes down on our draft?
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