Redskins: 2012 Off-Season-Free Agency/Trades

[T.O.Killa]

What do we know about Chris Carr. I thought he sucked, but I read that he was a good corner until he got hurt.

[Paintrain]

I've cooled on Jackson and Colston as well. Both will want top of the market deals and I think while Jackson will make an impact, I wonder if Colston is more of a product of Brees than truly an individual star. For my money, I'm leaning more towards making a big play for Garcon and Royal, whom both could come at nearly the cost for just Jackson or Colston.

My full 'shopping list' would be:
WR: Garcon, Royal (L. Robinson would be nice also to hurt Dallas while helping us)
S: Thomas DeCoud
OL: Mike Briesel, Anthony Collins
CB: Terrell Thomas

Of course, resigning Fletcher to a market deal, Lichtenstiger to a modest deal and Hightower to a one year deal would be included as well.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've cooled on Jackson and Colston as well. Both will want top of the market deals and I think while Jackson will make an impact, I wonder if Colston is more of a product of Brees than truly an individual star. For my money, I'm leaning more towards making a big play for Garcon and Royal, whom both could come at nearly the cost for just Jackson or Colston.

My full 'shopping list' would be:
WR: Garcon, Royal (L. Robinson would be nice also to hurt Dallas while helping us)
S: Thomas DeCoud
OL: Mike Briesel, Anthony Collins
CB: Terrell Thomas

Of course, resigning Fletcher to a market deal, Lichtenstiger to a modest deal and Hightower to a one year deal would be included as well.

Scouting info on Thomas DeCoud...

Grade: 74 | Key

Comment: DeCoud is a very athletic safety with long arms that allow him the reach to tip the ball away from receivers. He lacks premier speed and acceleration but does a good job of reading the quarterback's eyes and shows above-average route recognition in deep zone. He is a solid tackler both in space as well as in the hole and is not at all timid about inserting himself on run support. While he gets to a lot of balls he lacks the kind of top ball skills that would allow him to come up with more interceptions.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Scouting info on Thomas DeCoud...

Grade: 74 | Key

Comment: DeCoud is a very athletic safety with long arms that allow him the reach to tip the ball away from receivers. He lacks premier speed and acceleration but does a good job of reading the quarterback's eyes and shows above-average route recognition in deep zone. He is a solid tackler both in space as well as in the hole and is not at all timid about inserting himself on run support. While he gets to a lot of balls he lacks the kind of top ball skills that would allow him to come up with more interceptions.

Falcons just re-signed DeCoud.. One off of my list. Hopefully we are still talking to Landry about a one year deal.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've cooled on Jackson and Colston as well. Both will want top of the market deals and I think while Jackson will make an impact, I wonder if Colston is more of a product of Brees than truly an individual star. For my money, I'm leaning more towards making a big play for Garcon and Royal, whom both could come at nearly the cost for just Jackson or Colston.

My full 'shopping list' would be:
WR: Garcon, Royal (L. Robinson would be nice also to hurt Dallas while helping us)
S: Thomas DeCoud
OL: Mike Briesel, Anthony Collins
CB: Terrell Thomas

Of course, resigning Fletcher to a market deal, Lichtenstiger to a modest deal and Hightower to a one year deal would be included as well.

Good list. Harry Douglas, Tracy Porter may also be considered as well

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Good list. Harry Douglas, Tracy Porter may also be considered as well

I see Harry Douglas as a younger version of Armstrong. Good vertical speed but limitations in running the complete route tree. I'm thinking Porter may be expensive, former first rounder, some turnover capability. I like him though. Wasn't there some talk of him converting to FS?

[JoeRedskin]

When you get right down to it, I am not overly excited about any of the WR's in free agency.
VJ, as I understand it, is a bit of a head case, has had some off-field issues and just never seemed to me to be a real difference maker. He's good. Is he a "play maker". Maybe - he's got the measurables to be one, I just don't recall him ever taking over a game (I am sure someone will cite me the stats to say he is. I admit, this is just a gut call).

Garcon, speedy but drops a lot of balls it seems. A little one-dimensional. Had the opportunity to step up after Wayne was injured and Harrison was released but just didn't.

Colston, again, not a play maker. Solid, good (not great) in the red zone but just not someone who takes the game on his back and says "Just get me the damn ball".

I guess they are all upgrades over the current stable. but not by much and certainly not "the Answer". In light of that, I hope we keep the offers reasonable and don't overpay for an, ultimately, above average WR.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

When you get right down to it, I am not overly excited about any of the WR's in free agency.
VJ, as I understand it, is a bit of a head case, has had some off-field issues and just never seemed to me to be a real difference maker. He's good. Is he a "play maker". Maybe - he's got the measurables to be one, I just don't recall him ever taking over a game (I am sure someone will cite me the stats to say he is. I admit, this is just a gut call).

Garcon, speedy but drops a lot of balls it seems. A little one-dimensional. Had the opportunity to step up after Wayne was injured and Harrison was released but just didn't.

Colston, again, not a play maker. Solid, good (not great) in the red zone but just not someone who takes the game on his back and says "Just get me the damn ball".

I guess they are all upgrades over the current stable. but not by much and certainly not "the Answer". In light of that, I hope we keep the offers reasonable and don't overpay for an, ultimately, above average WR.

I think solid arguments can be made for all three being considered play makers, and all are definite upgrades over our current group.

VJ for example averages 17.5 YPC for his career. He can really blow the lid off a D.

[diehardskin2982]

Personally Id like us to get a WR like Criner inthe draft. but I understand that at this point we have to get a surefire #1 receiver, we can't just rely on unprovem draft talent.

[celts32]

Colston scares me the most....big injury risk and seemed to just be another cog in an explosive offense. Can he really move to a new team and dictate coverage like a player at his expected salary level should?

[skinsfaninok]

Decoud is solid but imo he's not better than Landry or atogwe

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Decoud is solid but imo he's not better than Landry or atogwe

he's not

[SmootSmack]

DeCoud's staying in Atlanta, just got word

[skinsfaninok]

Sorry but I would not give Jackson that deal, he's almost 30 and honestly he's been inconsistent plus suspended also. I'd stick with getting garcon and someone else

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Jackson is the kind of receiver Snyder and Cerrato would have jumped to sign. He's not the kind of player i want us to go after.