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Old 10-20-2011, 04:56 PM   #1
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Look I was all for giving Grossman the nod to start the season out & see what happens. What happened was a glimpse of good Rex then more BAD REX started to pop up it's ugly head. He's not the worst QB in the league & if Rich Bartel was backing up Grossman then this wouldn't be happening. But it's not, it's John Beck the guy we all thought was going to start back in the spring. He deserves a shot & you know what, this aint no 1-4 team that sucks. The Skins' defense hasn't given up more than 21pts all year, with all those turnovers by Rex that has to point to 2 losses. Even last week, when D-Hall picks off Young & we are in the 20. If Rex doesn't throw up that jump ball with 3 DB's there that game would have had a different outcome. Make no mistake this DEFENSE is something special, they are fun to watch. They are balls to the wall and making plays. Beck will add some spark, buy some much needed time in the pocket and "manage" the game. Get back to pounding the rock and let's do this. Get this shit back on track and let Beck get his shot. Also one request I have to make, let Hankerson get some action ?? Austin too .. I was just starting to dig Gaffney but he's grown old on me in the last few weeks. As far as Cooley is concerned, I love him but Davis is creeping up towards a top 5 TE in this league. He is the shit. HTTR

4-2 after this week will sure look and feel good.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:14 PM   #2
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Look I was all for giving Grossman the nod to start the season out & see what happens. What happened was a glimpse of good Rex then more BAD REX started to pop up it's ugly head. He's not the worst QB in the league & if Rich Bartel was backing up Grossman then this wouldn't be happening. But it's not, it's John Beck the guy we all thought was going to start back in the spring. He deserves a shot & you know what, this aint no 1-4 team that sucks. The Skins' defense hasn't given up more than 21pts all year, with all those turnovers by Rex that has to point to 2 losses. Even last week, when D-Hall picks off Young & we are in the 20. If Rex doesn't throw up that jump ball with 3 DB's there that game would have had a different outcome. Make no mistake this DEFENSE is something special, they are fun to watch. They are balls to the wall and making plays. Beck will add some spark, buy some much needed time in the pocket and "manage" the game. Get back to pounding the rock and let's do this. Get this shit back on track and let Beck get his shot. Also one request I have to make, let Hankerson get some action ?? Austin too .. I was just starting to dig Gaffney but he's grown old on me in the last few weeks. As far as Cooley is concerned, I love him but Davis is creeping up towards a top 5 TE in this league. He is the shit. HTTR

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Agree with just about everything but the defense is special part.Defense has played good,very good AT TIMES,but a "special" defense doesnt give up 192 yards rushing and over 200 yards passing.Plus letting the eagles run the ball down our throat in the last 2 minutes when we had to stop them does not a special defense make
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:32 PM   #3
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Agree with just about everything but the defense is special part.Defense has played good,very good AT TIMES,but a "special" defense doesnt give up 192 yards rushing and over 200 yards passing.Plus letting the eagles run the ball down our throat in the last 2 minutes when we had to stop them does not a special defense make
Our run defense has never been very good. And considering how little TOP we had in the 1st half, the defense had to have been gassed. I'm not saying that's an excuse for such poor play but just something to consider.
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:41 PM   #4
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I don't know why so much stock is put into Beck. We really should expect the worst and be happy if we get lucky. Grossman makes a ton of mistakes but he has had enough talent to start in the league. Beck, should I remind you, has been a career backup. You can go on and on about how he is unproven, but he is unproven for a reason. Beck can go out and have great game on Sunday but that doesn't mean he won't go out and suck the week after. Both QBs aren't good and nothing about that is new.

(I so hope he is the next coming of Kurt Warner and my post gets quoted and scorned LOL. But it ain't happening folks!)
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:42 PM   #5
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Guys before we start Talking Kellen Moore in here lets stay focused on Our current starter John Beck.....For all we know we might not need a big time draft Speaking Kellen Moore though I've watched him since he took over at Boise....He looks like a pro QB he made Tidus Young look like Heisman material actually he made himself look like Heisman material....

..Keep in mind though our 30 year old QB was number 4 on the Heisman watch list at one point. Id say get your popcorn ready this is either gonna stink real bad.....or look really good
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:47 PM   #6
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Id say get your popcorn ready this is either gonna stink real bad.....or look really good
Hahaha. Right on!
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:22 PM   #7
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I hate the eagles more than any other team in the league. Even the cowpukes. But i have to say after MS pulled Grossman and put Beck in i saw a glimmer of hope. And i felt a little better about loosing to those @$$ birds. I realy feel good about this O John boy. Maybe i am just a homer(well this is for sure) but I feel better about Beck than i have about alot of the QBs that have passed through here... Let the Beck Effect start now.
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Re: John Beck Era Begins

Just a reminder as I catch-up on this thread: (1) Neither Beck nor Grossman is the answer; (2) Both are, at best, back-ups.

Grossman has proven that both these statements are true as to him.. Beck gets his chance to disprove their applicability to him. Hopefully, he will do so but, ultimately, we will only know after he plays a couple games.

That is all. Please continue arguing about who should start.
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:22 PM   #9
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I don't care who starts... this offense prolly hasn't had big play touchdowns since 2005 smh
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:33 PM   #10
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I too am becoming a Homer for Beck. It would be a great story!!!!
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:18 PM   #11
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I too am becoming a Homer for Beck. It would be a great story!!!!
Beck has the arm to be real good. If he will not stare down his receivers then he can be good. Real good.
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Old 10-28-2011, 12:23 PM   #12
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Beck has the arm to be real good. If he will not stare down his receivers then he can be good. Real good.
i respectfully disagree. i think beck has a horrid arm.

he cant wing the ball deep down field to stretch the D which I think on PA and rollouts is supposed to be a staple of this offense to compliment and be set up by running the ball religously.

on the short to intermediate routes he sometimes seems to throw a duck or inaccurate ball but sometimes he throws an accurate ball. but on those short to intermediate routes i would like a QB with limited arm strength to excel at the short stuff. he avg on short/intermediate stuff and well below avg on long balls over the top.

i also dont think he can throw/drive the ball on an out route or any route where the flight path of the ball isnt pretty much vertical.

i also dont see where beck has the ability to improve. his arm is what it is. personally i think he has small hands and has a lil trouble getting a good grip on the ball.

it just comes down to kyle calling the right plays at the right times with the understanding of what beck can and cant do. then beck needs to make the throws he should be able to make . .then maybe if we are running the ball well and our D is doing decent, we have a chance to win.
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:30 AM   #13
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i respectfully disagree. i think beck has a horrid arm.

he cant wing the ball deep down field to stretch the D which I think on PA and rollouts is supposed to be a staple of this offense to compliment and be set up by running the ball religously.

on the short to intermediate routes he sometimes seems to throw a duck or inaccurate ball but sometimes he throws an accurate ball. but on those short to intermediate routes i would like a QB with limited arm strength to excel at the short stuff. he avg on short/intermediate stuff and well below avg on long balls over the top.

i also dont think he can throw/drive the ball on an out route or any route where the flight path of the ball isnt pretty much vertical.

i also dont see where beck has the ability to improve. his arm is what it is. personally i think he has small hands and has a lil trouble getting a good grip on the ball.

it just comes down to kyle calling the right plays at the right times with the understanding of what beck can and cant do. then beck needs to make the throws he should be able to make . .then maybe if we are running the ball well and our D is doing decent, we have a chance to win.
Well I appreciate your opinion. I was judging from the Carolina game and it looked good enough to make the throws with some zip but I suppose I need to see some more of him to be totally sold on his arm as strong and maybe you're right.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:57 PM   #14
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Since before he joined us, I have been a Kyle Shanahan fan. So whichever QB makes his offense looks good, is fine by me.
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:51 AM   #15
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Since before he joined us, I have been a Kyle Shanahan fan. So whichever QB makes his offense looks good, is fine by me.
Kyle has certainly been a tragic figure
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