Shanahan Tells Banks He Better Learn to Play WR

[Alvin Walton]

Banks should watch this.....

Devin Hester All 19 returns through 11-14-2011 - YouTube

[SmootSmack]

I have no clue what your stance is on him. You seem to fluctuate

[REDSKINS4ever]

I haven't contradicted myself in saying anything about Banks. I've been saying the same thing about him all along. Many people here don't think much of him as a return man but I do. Maybe I'm the only one here that thinks highly of him.

[SmootSmack]

So you think maybe he lacks the vision to be a great returner but if we let him go he'll undoubtedly be amazing somewhere else...just because that's our luck? Is that it?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Over the years with the Redskins team regardless who the coach was or what era it was, since the end of the first Joe Gibbs era, players have been drafted or either signed by the Redskins front office and lasted a few years and then they are waived only to be picked up by other teams. Before you know it, those players end up with Super Bowl rings or at least Super Bowl appearances. Essentially what I'm suggesting is it's happened so often that I wouldn't be at all surprised if Brandon Banks is cut and then is picked up by one of the other 31 NFL teams and flourishes into one of the best return men in the NFL.

Case in point the most recent Redskin to benefit from no longer being a Redskin was Devin Thomas, who everybody in Redskins Nation don't think is that good. If Mike Shanahan wasn't that much of a micro managing head coach and overlooked what Thomas was doing, he might have still been on the Redskins roster and never earned a Super Bowl ring with the NYG. The fact of the matter is being released and picked up by other teams and then moving on to do better elsewhere has happened with former Redskins players more than it should have.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Over the years with the Redskins team regardless who the coach was or what era it was, since the end of the first Joe Gibbs era, players have been drafted or either signed by the Redskins front office and lasted a few years and then they are waived only to be picked up by other teams. Before you know it, those players end up with Super Bowl rings or at least Super Bowl appearances. Essentially what I'm suggesting is it's happened so often that I wouldn't be at all surprised if Brandon Banks is cut and then is picked up by one of the other 31 NFL teams and flourishes into one of the best return men in the NFL.

Case in point the most recent Redskin to benefit from no longer being a Redskin was Devin Thomas, who everybody in Redskins Nation don't think is that good. If Mike Shanahan wasn't that much of a micro managing head coach and overlooked what Thomas was doing, he might have still been on the Redskins roster and never earned a Super Bowl ring with the NYG. The fact of the matter is being released and picked up by other teams and then moving on to do better elsewhere has happened with former Redskins players more than it should have.

And what I would suggest is more often than not players don't succeed after leaving here, it's just we remember the ones who do

And Devin Thomas getting a ring was just dumb luck. Not a product of him being so great. We don't miss Devin Thomas...do we?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

And what I would suggest is more often than not players don't succeed after leaving here, it's just we remember the ones who do

And Devin Thomas getting a ring was just dumb luck. Not a product of him being so great. We don't miss Devin Thomas...do we?

Of a surety I don't miss seeing Devin Thomas in a Redskins uniform at all. Yes, the Giants playoff run through Green Bay and San Francisco was a fluke that never should have happened.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Of a surety I don't miss seeing Devin Thomas in a Redskins uniform at all. Yes, the Giants playoff run through Green Bay and San Francisco was a fluke that never should have happened.

So what's your argument here? You claim that if we cut Banks he will move on to tear it up with another team. As evidence for this claim, you cite...Devin Thomas? And then you say you don't miss Thomas?

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Lotus

So what's your argument here? You claim that if we cut Banks he will move on to tear it up with another team. As evidence for this claim, you cite...Devin Thomas? And then you say you don't miss Thomas?

No, I don't miss Thomas. What did he ever do while he was in Washington? He only had one productive game for the Redskins, catching 6 passes for 101 yards in a 2009 game against New Orleans. I mentioned Thomas because he was the last Redskin to be waived only to end up on a Super Bowl team. If the Redskins give up on Banks, whose to say Banks won't become a dangerous return man with another NFL team or win a Super Bowl ring with another team?

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Over the years with the Redskins team regardless who the coach was or what era it was, since the end of the first Joe Gibbs era, players have been drafted or either signed by the Redskins front office and lasted a few years and then they are waived only to be picked up by other teams. Before you know it, those players end up with Super Bowl rings or at least Super Bowl appearances. Essentially what I'm suggesting is it's happened so often that I wouldn't be at all surprised if Brandon Banks is cut and then is picked up by one of the other 31 NFL teams and flourishes into one of the best return men in the NFL.

Case in point the most recent Redskin to benefit from no longer being a Redskin was Devin Thomas, who everybody in Redskins Nation don't think is that good. If Mike Shanahan wasn't that much of a micro managing head coach and overlooked what Thomas was doing, he might have still been on the Redskins roster and never earned a Super Bowl ring with the NYG. The fact of the matter is being released and picked up by other teams and then moving on to do better elsewhere has happened with former Redskins players more than it should have.

Desmond Howard would be a lot better example than Devin Thomas,but Shanahan didnt cut Howard so we cant blame him for that

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Over the years with the Redskins team regardless who the coach was or what era it was, since the end of the first Joe Gibbs era, players have been drafted or either signed by the Redskins front office and lasted a few years and then they are waived only to be picked up by other teams. Before you know it, those players end up with Super Bowl rings or at least Super Bowl appearances. Essentially what I'm suggesting is it's happened so often that I wouldn't be at all surprised if Brandon Banks is cut and then is picked up by one of the other 31 NFL teams and flourishes into one of the best return men in the NFL.

Case in point the most recent Redskin to benefit from no longer being a Redskin was Devin Thomas, who everybody in Redskins Nation don't think is that good. If Mike Shanahan wasn't that much of a micro managing head coach and overlooked what Thomas was doing, he might have still been on the Redskins roster and never earned a Super Bowl ring with the NYG. The fact of the matter is being released and picked up by other teams and then moving on to do better elsewhere has happened with former Redskins players more than it should have.

Name former skins who have played a significant role in the success of their following teams not named Antonio Pierce

[mbedner3420]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Name former skins who have played a significant role in the success of their following teams not named Antonio Pierce

Ryan Clark, champ bailey just off the top of my head.

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by mbedner3420

Ryan Clark, champ bailey just off the top of my head.

Brad Johnson, Carlos Rogers, Brandon Lloyd, Trent Greene, Stephen Davis.......

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Name former skins who have played a significant role in the success of their following teams not named Antonio Pierce

Antonio Pierce- Won Super Bowl XLII with the Giants

Andre Carter- went to Super Bowl XLVI with the Patriots

Desmond Howard- Won Super Bowl XXXI with the Packers

Carlos Rogers- Went to NFC Championship as a 49er a year after left the Redskins

Devin Thomas- Won Super Bowl XLVI with the Giants

Mark Schlereth- Won Supers Bowls XXXII and XXXIII with the Broncos

Stephen Davis- went to Super Bowl XXXVIII with the Panthers

Shaun Suisam- now on a winning Pittsburgh Steelers team

Ladell Betts- reached playoffs with Saints a year after he left the Redskins

Mark Brunell- Won Super Bowl XLIV with Saints

Ryan Clark- Won Super Bowl XLV with Pittsburgh Steelers

Todd Collins- reached NFC Championship game with the Chicago Bears

Terry Crews- former Redskins defensive end now a successful movie actor

Rich Gannon - guided Raiders to Super Bowl XXXVII

Brad Johnson- won Super Bowl XXXVII with Buccaneers

Pierson Prioleau- won Super Bowl XLIV with the Saints

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

snip good list.

Nice list. I'd qualify it with who really contributed. (Bolded what I think are the skins actual mistakes with hindsight, on your list). You and other knowledgeable posters please correct me where I screw up on this:

Antonio Pierce- Won Super Bowl XLII with the Giants - Yeah, letting him go for what few thousand more to the Gnats was dumb.

Andre Carter- went to Super Bowl XLVI with the Patriots - He didn't play in the SB due to injury (might've made a huge difference). Great guy and great 4-3 DE. Had a PB-like run with us year before, and with Pats last year, but he just didn't fit in the 3-4 we run (Can't cover). I guess whether this was a mistake depends on how our conversion to the 3-4 works out.

Desmond Howard- Won Super Bowl XXXI with the Packers - No. He bounced around a couple teams before one year with Packers. Still a situational player (whopping 13 receptions at WR that year and was only a Packer one year). Had a great SB, but wasn't a major contributor other than that.

Carlos Rogers- Went to NFC Championship as a 49er a year after left the Redskins - Maybe. He finally listened to people telling him to get contacts and had a great contract year. Verdict's out as to whether Skins could have handled this better, IMO.

Devin Thomas- Won Super Bowl XLVI with the Giants - Lol, no. Giants have plenty of cheap shot artists to try giving people concussions in kick coverages.

Mark Schlereth- Won Supers Bowls XXXII and XXXIII with the Broncos - Yeah, we shouldn't have let him go, even though he was a walking injury model.

Stephen Davis- went to Super Bowl XXXVIII with the Panthers - Yeah we let him go because Spurrier's fun-n-gun was going to fix everything. (groan)

Shaun Suisam- now on a winning Pittsburgh Steelers team - Yeah, and blame Danny Smith for this one. Guess between us, Dallass, and Pitt, only Pitt has good coaches in this area.

Ladell Betts- reached playoffs with Saints a year after he left the Redskins - lol, no. Anybody could ride the pine, and I'm not sure Betts was even really active then.

Mark Brunell- Won Super Bowl XLIV with Saints - No. See Betts.

Ryan Clark- Won Super Bowl XLV with Pittsburgh Steelers - Yeah, case of us wanting superstars at every position. Dumb.

Todd Collins- reached NFC Championship game with the Chicago Bears - No. I'm a Collins fan for what he did in '07, but he was godawful with the Bears. Shanny was bringing in McNabb, and our vet that knew the OC's playbook was Grossman not Collins.

Terry Crews- former Redskins defensive end now a successful movie actor - ???

Rich Gannon - guided Raiders to Super Bowl XXXVII - Yeah, I don't think he was the problem when we let him go. His mobility was a big plus while here also.

Brad Johnson- won Super Bowl XXXVII with Buccaneers - Yeah. Danny Snyder screwed us in so many ways in 2000. Ironic that Johnson and Gannon played against each other in SBXXXVII.

Pierson Prioleau- won Super Bowl XLIV with the Saints - Not sure. He wasn't bad, but wasn't he "just" a good rotational player with us and Saints? Not sure if we or Saints needed him, with the other players both teams had. I think people like Ryan Clark or Antonio Pierce are a cut above.

(Added)Champ Bailey - Went on to continue being an elite CB. - Not sure the Skins could have handled the situation better, anyways. And Clinton Portis contributed far more than Bailey and Tatum Bell would have, IMO.