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Old 01-07-2017, 12:10 PM   #1
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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

I'd rank my list like this

Phillips
Williams
Bradley
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Old 01-07-2017, 12:15 PM   #2
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I'd rank my list like this

Phillips
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My thoughts exactly!

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Old 01-07-2017, 12:38 PM   #3
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Williams would come back? Really? I thought bad blood there.
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Old 01-07-2017, 12:45 PM   #4
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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

I voted Wade Phillips and it wasn't even close in my mind. I think he may be the best DC in football. Period. End.
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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

Wilks
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:41 PM   #6
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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

Phillips is a chest pain away from retiring.
I would go with Bradley.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:44 PM   #7
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Btw I voted for Grillz because I love him but his Defenses haven't been the same since the NFL cut off his balls.
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:36 PM   #8
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Browns hire Gregg Williams
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Browns hire Gregg Williams
Pretty sure there was never any serious consideration for him.
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:06 PM   #11
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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

I voted to "Back up the Bus for Gus", but I'm having 2nd thoughts....

His stats as Def Coord in Seattle......

2009 - 24th in Total D
2010- 27 (drafted Earl Thomas/Cam Chancellor)
2011 - 9th (Richard Sherman)
2012- 4th (Bobby Wagner)

So, with the right talent, I have no concerns that he couldn't do the job.

My concern is that IF he is the selection, this might not be a quick flip next year.
I question if we have close to the same talent level that Seattle did in 2010.

I think sonofbum would have a more immediate impact.
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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

Good coaches have good players. The Browns would've still been the Browns if Gibbs was coaching them. So if a coach has good rankings, he did a good job with the talent he was given. Phillips is old, I'd prefer Bradley or Wilks.
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Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

How about we try actually getting some talent on board. There are no miracle workers out there. You cannot turn turds into gold with a scheme. Lol.
But Wade could probably make them the nicest looking turds.....vote for Wade 17
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Re: Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

Talent certainly matters. So does scheme and coaching, and no doubt the organization is looking to improve all of the above.

The best way to measure a defensive coordinator's impact is look how he did in his first year, and look how that same defense did in the year before his arrival. That's why Wade is so impressive, he has frequently taken a moribund defense into the top 10 in his first season.

Bradley has improved the defenses he has coached, both the Seahawks and Jags got quite a bit better, but it took longer and some talent. Wade's impact has been more immediate.

Same with Manusky. Wilks we can't judge, never been a coordinator. Norman developed, and he certainly knows what good defenses look like, but can he call one? Can he gameplan? Can he flex his scheme to fit his talent? Maybe but we don't know. He's a risk.

Wade is the best candidate, it's not close.
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