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Old 08-01-2012, 09:32 AM   #1
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

Regardless of the fact that J Brown doesn't need surgery, I wonder if they will still try and make a trade for another tackle. It's still early enough in camp that they could get someone better in to play than a guy with two hip injuries and Polumbus.
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Regardless of the fact that J Brown doesn't need surgery, I wonder if they will still try and make a trade for another tackle. It's still early enough in camp that they could get someone better in to play than a guy with two hip injuries and Polumbus.
Lets be completely honest with ourselves, Jamal Brown is done. Other than a possible Cooley deal or late, late round draft picks we need to watch for cuts. That is where we will find vet help. Rather than trade picks, we should watch for roster cuts at this point. Would like to see Cooley traded for a Tackle, but thats gonna be a challenge.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:43 AM   #3
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Skins RT Jammal Brown's injury not serious. No surgery. Rest and rehab. No exact return date scheduled but not season threatening
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:52 AM   #4
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Missed this post. That's not where I heard it from. But if multiple people are reporting it, then that must be a good sign
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:54 AM   #5
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Missed this post. That's not where I heard it from. But if multiple people are reporting it, then that must be a good sign
Any news on the injury to his other hip? Is it serious?
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

Well, I guess I was right on Thursday/Friday. Brown's injury is not serious. Should actually be back quite soon. So says the latest intel

Note to self: Radio source of mine who keeps feeding me false info...you're on my list
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Well, I guess I was right on Thursday/Friday. Brown's injury is not serious. Should actually be back quite soon. So says the latest intel

Note to self: Radio source of mine who keeps feeding me false info...you're on my list
SS your intel is always appreciated. Good news I guess, but I really dont expect much from JB. Still need to look at roster cuts and coach up our depth with a sense of urgency.
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Well, I guess I was right on Thursday/Friday. Brown's injury is not serious. Should actually be back quite soon. So says the latest intel
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Brown will be out for a couple weeks but will not go on IR. Looks like 5-8.



Between 5 and 8 weeks. I'm like a few people up here, you really can't count on Brown's health lasting at all.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:03 AM   #9
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Brown will be out for a couple weeks but will not go on IR. Looks like 5-8.



Between 5 and 8 weeks. I'm like a few people up here, you really can't count on Brown's health lasting at all.
We honestly should just cut ties with Brown now. I don't see him being anything other than a detriment to the stability of the O-line this year (and in the future).
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:45 AM   #10
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

Every position on a team can be rated by the quality of players available at that position: all-pro, pro-bowl, average starter, barely average, passable, replacement level etc. (whichever term you want to use) x how many players are available at that position.
Prior to JB's injury the RT position was below average, playing below replacement level and often injured.

This is the truth of the RT situation now and during the offseason.

The next step is philosophy/judgement.
How important is RT play to the overall success/failure of an offense?
The answer to the above question guides ones assessment of priority (right/wrong) for the position.

Should we address and prioritize the RT position with a safer bet to play at a higher level then Jammal Brown or Tyler Polombus?
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Should we go with what got and let the chips fall where they may?

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The news may be good but I dont trust this guy.
How many weeks till hes a gimp all over again?
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:00 AM   #12
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The team has few options since the talent OT talent pool was so thin and the $18M cap penalty hit. Would fans be happy for the team to trade for Otah? Of course not. They have to hold on to Jamaal for the duration of season. Maybe it's best for him to be the swing guy while Polumbus gets the workload now.
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Why would Massie be a better choice than Cousins if he couldn't contribute now?
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Why would Massie be a better choice than Cousins if he couldn't contribute now?
Neither guy is going to contribute much right now, right? So to me the argument is a developmental one.

Down the road IMO (brilliant talent scout that I am ) I think Massie could develop into a very good starter at RT. AT worst he could provide quality depth. We could muddle through this year at RT but have Massie ready to start next year. In this scenario RT, in the long term, is solved.

Cousins to me was way too mistake-prone at MSU and I think he will continue to be mistake-prone as a pro. Others disagree but I personally (again with my seasoned brilliance) don't see Cousins ever developing into even a quality backup. This is why I say that the idea to have two young QB's is smart but IMO Cousins is not the second man.

Since Cousins is on our team I hope that he makes me eat huge helpings of crow but I am of little faith right now.
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Neither guy is going to contribute much right now, right? So to me the argument is a developmental one.

Down the road IMO (brilliant talent scout that I am ) I think Massie could develop into a very good starter at RT. AT worst he could provide quality depth. We could muddle through this year at RT but have Massie ready to start next year. In this scenario RT, in the long term, is solved.

Cousins to me was way too mistake-prone at MSU and I think he will continue to be mistake-prone as a pro. Others disagree but I personally (again with my seasoned brilliance) don't see Cousins ever developing into even a quality backup. This is why I say that the idea to have two young QB's is smart but IMO Cousins is not the second man.

Since Cousins is on our team I hope that he makes me eat huge helpings of crow but I am of little faith right now.
Ok, got you. So you weren't against a QB per se. Just Cousins.

Could it be your judgment is clouded because you feel Cousins is an unnecessary roadblock on Crompton's path to greatness?
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