Supreme Court vacancy

[punch it in]

Oh God. I cannot with the both sides bullshit. There is only one loudmouth racist asshole spouting lies and conspiracy theories and endangering our democracy and the Republicans married the mother fucker.
The end.


Edit: i was going to delete and say that
If you referring just to the supreme court than it is a little easier to swallow but i like what i wrote and it is still bullshit. The Republicans are the ones that talked out of both sides of their asses.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Oh God. I cannot with the both sides bullshit. There is only one loudmouth racist asshole spouting lies and conspiracy theories and endangering our democracy and the Republicans married the mother fucker.
The end.


Edit: i was going to delete and say that
If you referring just to the supreme court than it is a little easier to swallow but i like what i wrote and it is still bullshit. The Republicans are the ones that talked out of both sides of their asses.

Lololololol...

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Oh God. I cannot with the both sides bullshit. There is only one loudmouth racist asshole spouting lies and conspiracy theories and endangering our democracy and the Republicans married the mother fucker.
The end.

Edit: i was going to delete and say that
If you referring just to the supreme court than it is a little easier to swallow but i like what i wrote and it is still bullshit. The Republicans are the ones that talked out of both sides of their asses.

This is my favorite edit of all times. I edited to confirm how much I liked my original post and how right I was. This is a scientific breakthrough in the editing community.

[MTK]

F it, pack the court, term limits, whatever, all bets are off going forward

The quest to entrench political conservatism in the country’s highest court comes with a steep cost.

[SunnySide]

^^ Thats a good article. I didnt know republicans have seated 14 of the last 18 justices. Kinda fucked up considering this country is majority democrat. Senate allocation of seats just favors rural states so much.

Lets see how things play out. I dont think they will ever over turn Roe but they will allow undue restictions that abortion will effectively become a States rights issue. States can slap on the hospital requirements and bans after 15 weeks.

obergefell (2015 - same sex) .. this case took a long time through the Courts. I would protest if they tried to overturn this and I imagine they will. this would mean same sex couples would not have the same rights and protections under estate laws, hospital visitation, health insurance, pensions, etc.

If you are cheering on this rushed Barrett confirmation .. youre cheering on same sex couples being discriminated against. im assuming they will overturn obergefell but its a safe assumption.

McConnell has certainly made the SCOTUS a political stick now.

SCOTUS has one foot in the grave in terms of being apolitical and revered by the american people. I see it as a stained institution now.

But I want to see how they rule and the mental gymnastics they go through first before supporting blowing it up and packing the court and making it a kangaroo court.

[Chico23231]

Lol...pack the court is your answer? JFC...dilute the institution

Harry Reid fuck it all up, not McConnell period.

If there is a stain, at least understand who stained it. Democrats have a history there...read up

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Lol...pack the court is your answer? JFC...dilute the institution

Harry Reid fuck it all up, not McConnell period.

If there is a stain, at least understand who stained it. Democrats have a history there...read up

Lolololol.

Harry Reid fucked it all up by reducing lower judicial nominees to a majority-vote threshold, so naturally the only proper reaction was to do the same thing to the highest court in the land?

Are we agreeing that this tit-for-tat bs is the status quo now?

Because if we are, it's only natural that the Dems retaliate in some manner, and we've been playing this game long enough that the only options left are extreme options.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Lolololol.



Harry Reid fucked it all up by reducing lower judicial nominees to a majority-vote threshold, so naturally the only proper reaction was to do the same thing to the highest court in the land?



Are we agreeing that this tit-for-tat bs is the status quo now?



Because if we are, it's only natural that the Dems retaliate in some manner, and we've been playing this game long enough that the only options left are extreme options.

I have said that I wished Trump had focused on unity and held off. That said neither party is trying to be the better actor in all this. Both are pandering to the more extreme part of their base with their respective media outlets. The US is going downhill fast and, as Sunny likes to point out, the Democrats will get to be the ones in charge when it all goes pop

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[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I have said that I wished Trump had focused on unity and held off. That said neither party is trying to be the better actor in all this. Both are pandering to the more extreme part of their base with their respective media outlets. The US is going downhill fast and, as Sunny likes to point out, the Democrats will get to be the ones in charge when it all goes pop

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For 200 years SCOTUS was held to a honorable standard above the partisan bickering of the day.

Sad to see that day has passed. It's all in the game though gents. No turning around now.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

For 200 years SCOTUS was held to a honorable standard above the partisan bickering of the day.



Sad to see that day has passed. It's all in the game though gents. No turning around now.

True. And the Democrats use of Roe v Wade as political measuring stick was ultimately the seed of the end. There is such a fundamental disconnect between one side (in extreme) seeing the fetus as an inconvenience to be washed away and at the other end a life to be protected above all, that in the end there is no 1 truth that all judges, or people in the US hold to anymore.

The old adage of I may disagree with you but i will defend to the death your right to say it falls short of the mark when your concept of rights includes killing the unborn, or on the other side, taking away the right of a woman over her own body.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

For 200 years SCOTUS was held to a honorable standard above the partisan bickering of the day.

Sad to see that day has passed. It's all in the game though gents. No turning around now.

Amen ,Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for this mess . They sold their souls to the Devil in backing trump and in the process might have destroyed the republican party.

[SunnySide]

Sure chico .. well, at least we agree its stained.

[MTK]

Fact check: Republicans, not Democrats, eliminated the Senate filibuster on Supreme Court nominees

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Fact check: Republicans, not Democrats, eliminated the Senate filibuster on Supreme Court nominees

And yet when(if) the democrats try to put on two justices (the 2 "stolen" seats) they will loudly proclaim the Republicans made them do it, and there will be no "fact check" stating the sequence started back in the early 2000s. We have arrived here because both parties stopped evaluating candidates on legal merit and instead on political preference. And one only need to look at how the senate voting has changed to see who started that.
Thurgood Marshall 11 no votes out of 80
Thomas 52-48 (10 dems for 2 reps against)
Ginsburg 96-3 (38 reps for)
Breyer 87-9 (31 reps for)
Roberts 78-22 to be chief justice ( 22 dems voted against 20 voted for)
Alito 58-42 (3 dems)
Sotomayor 68-31 (9 reps)
Kagan 67-31 (4 reps)
Garland no vote ( personally i wish trump had nominated him instead of Kavanaugh. Maybe would have brought unity )
Gorsuch Kavanaugh Barrett - all party line

It is pretty clear from Thomas on Dems have held SCOTUS and judicial nominees hostage and have counted on the court system as an ally their political agenda. Trump/McConnell seem to have frustrated them a bit on that part.


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[SunnySide]

Those are good points CRed, really good points I did not know ... I think since McConnell made it a simple majority we will see just straight party voting going forward as we saw with Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett.

I think a few dems voted yay for Gorsuch(?) ... not that it mattered bc Republicans had the 51 votes and Pence as any tie breaker.

points that cannot be denied:

1. 14 of the last 18 justices have been placed by republicans
2. McConnell stole Garland's seat leading to the contentious Kavanaugh confirmation .. which I think was the breaking point for everyone.
3. its broken and will only become more broken