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Re: Marty Hurney Thread
Well don't tell them that, just talk up the fact that he was the starting safety on one of the best defences in the league and avoid the part where he was most effective when getting 0 snaps
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Re: Marty Hurney Thread
My bottom line on the whole FO question is this. RR took the keys to the kingdom away from Dan. He has the right to set it up the way he thinks it will work best. As a fan of the team first, being a fan of any coach/player/owner/staffer comes in a distance second to seeing this team become a functional, competitive pro football team.
So for everyone who is wringing their hands because RR hired x or fired y or didn't do z, what is your priority, and if you know better how to handle the whole of an NFL team, please, submit your application to RR. Not meaning to stifle legit discussion, but some of the angst and doom is just over the top for the level of past performance these men have brought to various clubs. |
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Re: Marty Hurney Thread
Landon Collins fills a need and is a good in box safety. His contract dictates that he is not going anywhere this offseason and will be a starter. Curl and collins can be on the field at the same time. Especially if Curl becomes CB3 in nickel packages which we run a lot.
Coveted safeties are becoming multiple position players it seems. Curl has the chance to be that. Collins has a place on this team and is a positive. |
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I am cleaning up diet soda off my desk now because of laughter.
That was awesome GIF
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Re: Marty Hurney Thread
For whatever reason im questioning whether im reading this right.
2021 cap hit - whopping eye opening piss you off 17.2M 2021 dead cap if dropped - 13.8M You drop him, you save 3.4M for 2021. Id rather have Landon Collins for 3.4M vs having an addl 3.4M in cap .... especially considering we probably will have 10M or so in unused cap for 2021 anyway. Landon Collins is not a negative on the field and seems to be a good locker room leader in a young secondary. He is not worth the 17.2M cap hit but he does bring value on and off the field. besides I am not 100% convinced Curl will be a long term starter plus player we are just assuming he will be. I think we artificially elevate low draft young players a bit when they surpass our low expectations of them. If Curl was a 2nd or 3rd rounder ... I think more people would be medium on him. But since we all love the underdog, diamond in the rough story ... we crown him. I like Curl dont get me wrong and do think he has a better chance of making an impact vs a bacari rambo or philip thomas .. but im not crowning Curl as a top 30 safety. Not yet. ![]() |
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The question is what do you do? You can't go back in time. You cut Collins, you still need depth behind him, and we already need 15+ guys. See Curl thrive one more year before cutting Collins, especially with cap hit. Same thing Scherff. How is our best OL a right G? We know how, but man. We have no MLB, no franchise LT, no shutdown corner, and we're paying a RG 15 milion+? But if you don't, just another hole. I see Scherff get absolutely blown out in pass coverage too much to pay him that kind of money. But you can't let your only All Pro walk? The previous mismanagement of this team still defies comprehension. We need to keep building primarily through the draft, and that means not surrendering draft picks for trade-ups or retreads. You have to eat it and sign Scherff, but make sure our high-contract guys are also at high-leverage positions going forward. When two of your biggest contracts are for a RG that can't pass block consistently, and a SS that can't cover, I mean man. |
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But what do you do, like you said. Create another hole/need? Not retain a top 10 guard? Collins is staying for 2021 due to contract so theres no decision there. If we retain Scherff, okay thats fine. If we dont and keep our 14M plus a comp pick, okay thats fine. There both not great options imo. |
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The contract is what it is. I still like the player well enough though, Collins isn't going anywhere.
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Re: Marty Hurney Thread
He is overpaid. He won't be moved this year. But I like the man himself. Good teammate and locerkroom guy. Hopefully he can contribute this year.
Please add a FS.
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