When is Enough ,Enough?

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Literally every intelligence agency in the world says without a shadow of a doubt that Russia wanted Trump in 16 and now. How is it irrational for the media to cover that? Lol. What is irrational is for Trump n Fox news to disregard it. I mean come on C red. He fired the head of national security and hired an admitted trumpocrat when the IC briefed the WH on the repeated interference attempts. Putin has a puppet in trump this time because he is not willing to acknowledge the interference. In 2016 though there was a reason he wanted Trump. Any theories on that?

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Putin been there a while if ur theory that he just gets shits n giggles from dems casting doubt on a republican win why didn’t we see this before? Sorry for the multiple posts but my post count suffers in the off season.

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Anyone with half a brain knows Russia is our enemy and that they are going to conduct actions against us. That is not why it is a hoax. It is a hoax because of the way the media and dems make it seem like there is validity to the claim that Trump or Sanders are working with or for the Russians/Putin.

Also people with half a brain knew the Dems would leak this kind of story at some point before the election. My biggest shock is they played the Russia card so early, but I am sure they will play it often.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Anyone with half a brain knows Russia is our enemy and that they are going to conduct actions against us. That is not why it is a hoax. It is a hoax because of the way the media and dems make it seem like there is validity to the claim that Trump or Sanders are working with or for the Russians/Putin.

Also people with half a brain knew the Dems would leak this kind of story at some point before the election. My biggest shock is they played the Russia card so early, but I am sure they will play it often.

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When the whole 52 card deck is all Russia, you can throw them early and often.

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Anyone with half a brain knows Russia is our enemy and that they are going to conduct actions against us. That is not why it is a hoax. It is a hoax because of the way the media and dems make it seem like there is validity to the claim that Trump or Sanders are working with or for the Russians/Putin.

Also people with half a brain knew the Dems would leak this kind of story at some point before the election. My biggest shock is they played the Russia card so early, but I am sure they will play it often.

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He hired a loyalist with no credentials whatsoever to be the head up National Security. He did this on the heels of the IA’s report that Russia was interfering again. He did it because he knew Grenell would do whatever it takes to cast shade on the facts. For his own ego and fear of people considering his election illegitimate. Hiring a yes man to head up national security to protect your ego in itself is dangerous. It isn’t exactly on par with a walmart greeter.
He stood on the world stage next to putin and said he believed him over his own ia’s. Not a hoax. Not fake news. It fuckin happened and its strange as fuck. Fishy as fuck.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He hired a loyalist with no credentials whatsoever to be the head up National Security. He did this on the heels of the IA’s report that Russia was interfering again. He did it because he knew Grenell would do whatever it takes to cast shade on the facts. For his own ego and fear of people considering his election illegitimate. Hiring a yes man to head up national security to protect your ego in itself is dangerous. It isn’t exactly on par with a walmart greeter.
He stood on the world stage next to putin and said he believed him over his own ia’s. Not a hoax. Not fake news. It fuckin happened and its strange as fuck. Fishy as fuck.

I am with Bernie, what is fishy as fuck is the Washington Post pushing the Bernie story the day before the Nevada caucuses

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am with Bernie, what is fishy as fuck is the Washington Post pushing the Bernie story the day before the Nevada caucuses

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The Democratic party is a machine. You stand in the way, you get ran over. Bernie is example A. They will not let him win. But we should take all their words on every thing else. Hard pass for me. All the more rich that they are going to feign morale outrage for 8 years on republicans "cheating" elections. They literally cheat their own party. So no way they'd sell a bill of goods against Trump or any other Republican. Pass.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Gone With the Wind, an iconic American movie, now a racist dog whistle.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/...with-the-wind/

This is my mom's favorites movie. She might actually be the sweetest woman in the world, turns out she's a racist devil. I'll let her know tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

The Democratic party is a machine. You stand in the way, you get ran over. Bernie is example A. They will not let him win. But we should take all their words on every thing else. Hard pass for me. All the more rich that they are going to feign morale outrage for 8 years on republicans "cheating" elections. They literally cheat their own party. So no way they'd sell a bill of goods against Trump or any other Republican. Pass.

The moral outrage with Trump goes soooo much deeper than his denial about Russian interference. I mean where to even begin.
He has got you all hook line n sinker. Dems deepstate. Witch-hunt. Blah blah blah. Who really gives a fuck if the post wrote an article misconstruing bernies words? Coincidence? Because it was the day before Nevada caucus? Seems like prime time to voice your opinion on Bernie. Right or wrong. How is that remotely even comparable to Trump taking sides with Putin over his own intel agencies? Lol. Nobody hated trump before 2016. Well maybe people he conned but certainly not the media or dems or general public. He has sold you all on the witch-hunt. Lolol.
And honestly a Trump supporter outraged by being run over if you stand in someone’s way? Hahaha. One example. Bernie. Ill give you 500 people Trump ran over because they stood in his way. Fired, bullied, ran over, etc etc. Forget standing in his way. They didn’t suck him off hard enough! You even waver in your loyalty to him and you get thrown to the lions den which is his base. Purple heart recipients escorted off the wh grounds like common criminals and their brother just because they r his brother!

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It is actually concerning not just a “card” to play. That is what Fox would lead you to believe. They just hate Trump. No.

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There are multiple cohorts of his in jail. There are multiple Russians indicted. Trump constantly disputes anything that points towards Russian interference. Every time one of his guys gets caught he claims he hardly knew them. Every single thing he does and says smells guilty yet you believe it is all a hoax because dems just dont like him. Lol. He has the senate and the AG working for him. So of course he is “innocent “. I know you guys are smarter than this.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

There are multiple cohorts of his in jail. There are multiple Russians indicted. Trump constantly disputes anything that points towards Russian interference. Every time one of his guys gets caught he claims he hardly knew them. Every single thing he does and says smells guilty yet you believe it is all a hoax because dems just dont like him. Lol. He has the senate and the AG working for him. So of course he is “innocent “. I know you guys are smarter than this.

Nah, I'm pretty stupid. Living my best sheep life.

[CRedskinsRule]

This writer describes my thoughts. I know it is not going to change anyone's mind but it is my opinion written well from someone else.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/democrat...s_3246614.html

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This writer describes my thoughts. I know it is not going to change anyone's mind but it is my opinion written well from someone else.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/democrat...s_3246614.html

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Problem is it lacks actual substance or evidence other than bernie honeymooned in Russia.
CRed the IA’s are briefing congress about Russian interference and the Dems are the only ones taking it to heart. Im completely confused about your take that somehow ignoring it is the best course of action.
And you or the writer cannot with a straight face say the sowing of discord amongst the right and left in this country is a result of the dems right? U obviously see Trump has divided this nation on a daily basis from his bully pulpit? Right? Or maybe we are living in different worlds? Like SD said redskins football makes us besties. Lol. But politically speaking I am pulling my hair out about you twisting the narrative here and saying the dems and Bernie are Putins puppets. I mean if a reaction is all he is looking for than ok sure, but it isn’t. He is looking for a true puppet. One that will publicly excuse and not admonish him. One that will give him a foothold in the middle east. One that will make the ukraine look like the bad guys. I mean how in the hell do u ignore all that and post an article about bernie honeymooning in russia? Lol

[CRedskinsRule]

I echo sdskins note on football vs politics, and I know that this will fall on deaf ears, or even be called a cult or trumpettes or whatever makes you guys feel better but at some point enough IS effin enough.

I am kind of sick and tired of listening to all the clap trap about Putin and Trump. IF we look at the FACTS, not innuendo, not the wheelbarrows full of c**pola that the media casts about to see what will stick. You mention Ukraine looking like the bad guys (which everyone agrees the previous Ukraine administration WAS corrupt as hell), or giving Russia a foothold in the Middle East (I think you mean Syria, which is and has been a Russian proxy since before any of us were born). Nothing you want Trump admonished for is any different than where we stood under Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton or Obama.

And in fact we stand better in the following areas.
ISIS - in 2015 - 2017 their caliphate area in Iraq/Syria had up to 282000 sq kilometers. In 2016 the State Department labelled ISIS "The greatest threat globally" by 2019 they were down to 200 sq kilometers.

Syria - when Trump took office, with ISIS spread throughout and multiple factions vying for land. agree or not Trump made the strategic decision not to get enmeshed in a russian proxy country's civil war, and limited military engagements to ISIS targets. The result was massively less casualties in the Syrian population

Time Period/Pro-government forces/Anti-government forces/Civilians/Grand Total (inc. unidentified)
201517,668 killed23,601 killed13,021 killed54,574 killed
201614,771 killed23,431 killed14,100 killed52,589 killed
201710,771 killed14,064 killed13,369 killed34,700 killed
20184,522 killed8,663 killed6,776 killed20,130 killed
20192,968 killed4,727 killed3,488 killed11,244 killed

Iran and Terrorism - In 2016, same article, Iran was listed as the top state sponsor of terrorism, Kerry acknowledged the some of the money that Iran got back was funneled to that terrorism. From the 2019 Global Terrorism Index

Deaths from terrorism fell for the fourth consecutive year,
after peaking in 2014. The decline in deaths corresponds with
the military successes against ISIL and Boko Haram, with
the total number of deaths falling by 15.2 per cent between
2017 and 2018 to 15,952. The largest fall occurred in Iraq,
which recorded 3,217 fewer deaths from terrorism in 2018,
a 75 per cent decrease from the prior year. For the first time
since 2003, Iraq is no longer the country most impacted by
terrorism.
ISIL’s decline continued for the second successive year.
Deaths attributed to the group declined 69 per cent, with
attacks declining 63 per cent in 2018. ISIL now has an
estimated 18,000 fighters left in Iraq and Syria, down from
over 70,000 in 2014.

Ukraine - AFTER the previous administration allowing/not intervening to stop Russia's takeover Crimea and refusing to send lethal aid to Ukraine's government. The Trump administration pushed lethal aid through. Ukraine's army has stood the initial invasions, and Russia and Ukraine are in talks to resolve the war. We let Ukraine down when Russia invaded them under the Obama administration. Trump has helped get more German and French aid in addition to US aid. Trump has increased oil exports to northern Europe - a direct threat to a Russian national interest, their oil exports to Europe

As OPEC’s efforts to balance the oil market bear fruit, U.S. producers are reaping the benefits - and flooding Europe with a record amount of crude.
...
Now, the relatively high prices brought about by that pact, coupled with surging U.S. output, are making it harder to sell Russian, Nigerian and other oil grades in Europe, traders said.

“U.S. oil is on offer everywhere,” said a trader with a Mediterranean refiner, who regularly buys Russian and Caspian Sea crude and has recently started purchasing U.S. oil. “It puts local grades under a lot of pressure.”

U.S. oil output is expected to hit 10.7 million bpd this year, rivaling that of top producers Russia and Saudi Arabia.

NATO - in 2014 only 3 countries paid the 2%, the US, Greece and the UK. In 2019 9 countries made the 2% mark, and all but 2 countries increased their contributions substantially. Further, from 2016 to 2019 NATO defense expenditures increased by 3-5% per year while US expenditures as a percentage of our GDP actually decreased. In addition the US built two ABM complexes in Romania and Poland that specifically outraged Russia/Putin.

Bottomline
you guys whine and cry about Trump somehow making this country less safe - worse off, but ignore the reality and listen/parrot back innuendos, lies, and scare tactics.
Terrorism is down
ISIS is out of play
The US is now an Oil Exporting country
NATO is spending more on its own behalf and has strengthened allies closest to Russia.
Russia has no more land or holdings then the day Trump took office, and is held in check in the Donbass region of Ukraine by Ukrainian forces trained and armed by the US.
The US economy has continued the growth started under Obama and extended record unemployment numbers across the spectrum of the US


Thus endeth my rant.