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[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Chris Simms turning heads out there ranking Zach Wilson ahead of Lawrence, plus putting Mac Jones AND Kellen Mond ahead of Fields and Lance. He's been right in the last 3 years a lot more than he's been wrong...should be interesting.

I’ve been saying recently that I’m higher on Jones than Fields so I’m not surprised. Something just doesn’t sit well with me about Fields. I think he’s going to be with his drafting team for his rookie contract only like a lot of other highly touted QB prospects.

[simbosargos75]

Disagree on Lawrence.

I'm with him on Fields for sure. I don't trust his arm strength and I really don't think he's that great of an athlete.

I like Mond and Trask more than most. I'd have them 4th and 3rd respectively.

Lawrence
Wilson
Trask
Mond
Jones
Lance
Fields

for me.

[skinsfaninok]

QB Rankings always crack me up regarding the draft.. Its a crap shoot and for most of these guys it all depends on schemes

[AnonEmouse]

I must admit, I do find myself wondering why more college's don't run pro style offensive schemes. Surely it would serve them and their players to be more NFL ready than other programmes?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I must admit, I do find myself wondering why more college's don't run pro style offensive schemes. Surely it would serve them and their players to be more NFL ready than other programmes?

I guess it comes down to why would a college coach care about getting a guy ready for the pros? How does it help him win his conference? Plus in college they just don't have the time with limited practice schedules to install complicated offenses.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by MTK

I guess it comes down to why would a college coach care about getting a guy ready for the pros? How does it help him win his conference? Plus in college they just don't have the time with limited practice schedules to install complicated offenses.

This was actually one of the things against Lawrence by Simms...he said due to Clemson's talent, their offense was very basic...very few reads for the QB...Ohio State the same way. However, didn't seem to hurt Watson.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I must admit, I do find myself wondering why more college's don't run pro style offensive schemes. Surely it would serve them and their players to be more NFL ready than other programmes?

They don't view themselves as farm leagues for NFL, LOL. They have a new starting QB every 3-4 years. You dumb down the system so it can be quickly and easily learned and mastered rapidly. Without talent over the field, as in NFL, also easier to exploit matchups which spread etc. makes way easier.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Scalper

They don't view themselves as farm leagues for NFL, LOL. They have a new starting QB every 3-4 years. You dumb down the system so it can be quickly and easily learned and mastered rapidly. Without talent over the field, as in NFL, also easier to exploit matchups which spread etc. makes way easier.

A lot of NFL teams have new coaches/schemes/QBs every 3-4 years too. I still have never understood why the NFL hasn’t created a developmental team for each NFL franchise in smaller market cities. They would make a fortune in additional revenue.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

A lot of NFL teams have new coaches/schemes/QBs every 3-4 years too. I still have never understood why the NFL hasn’t created a developmental team for each NFL franchise in smaller market cities. They would make a fortune in additional revenue.

Probably not. College team support is almost a cult. Why should the NFL pay for a developmental farm league when the corrupt NCAA and farcical American education system provide one for free? You aren't thinking like enough of a corporate shyster.

A lot of teams NFL do have new schemes every 3-4 years, but not the ones that win consistently. :-) Especially under the new CBA, where practice is so limited.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

A lot of NFL teams have new coaches/schemes/QBs every 3-4 years too. I still have never understood why the NFL hasn’t created a developmental team for each NFL franchise in smaller market cities. They would make a fortune in additional revenue.

No, they wouldn't. The bulk of the NFL's revenue comes from TV money. That kind of revenue just doesn't exist at the local level. The NFL would have to financially support a developmental league which would undoubtedly operate at a loss. That's why so many leagues come and go, without that TV money it's almost impossible for them to just break even.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

No, they wouldn't. The bulk of the NFL's revenue comes from TV money. That kind of revenue just doesn't exist at the local level. The NFL would have to financially support a developmental league which would undoubtedly operate at a loss. That's why so many leagues come and go, without that TV money it's almost impossible for them to just break even.

It's why the AAF and XFL folded.. I know the Rock thinks he can make it work but he won't... Nobody gives a shit about minor league football. In fact nobody really cares about that in any sport.

When was the last time you watched a Minor League baseball game?

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by Scalper

They don't view themselves as farm leagues for NFL, LOL. They have a new starting QB every 3-4 years. You dumb down the system so it can be quickly and easily learned and mastered rapidly. Without talent over the field, as in NFL, also easier to exploit matchups which spread etc. makes way easier.

I'm not talking about an NFL playbook, at least not a full one. I've coached over here and with the amateur level of players, we manage at least some playbooks with a simple progressive read and/or receiver option routes. US college kids are not idiots and if they are they probably won't make it in the Pro's anyway (at least not at QB). I'm sure that they all go to play college ball with 2 main aims 1) get an education 2) get a chance at the NFL. I see no harm in at least making some effort to give them a better chance in the NFL. That's an education/job opportunity too.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I'm not talking about an NFL playbook, at least not a full one. I've coached over here and with the amateur level of players, we manage at least some playbooks with a simple progressive read and/or receiver option routes. US college kids are not idiots and if they are they probably won't make it in the Pro's anyway (at least not at QB). I'm sure that they all go to play college ball with 2 main aims 1) get an education 2) get a chance at the NFL. I see no harm in at least making some effort to give them a better chance in the NFL. That's an education/job opportunity too.

NCAA football is a business, not a charity. Coaches make MILLIONS, and they are doing whatever it takes to win. The schemes that allow them to win are not NFL type schemes in most cases, period. Most U.S. college kids are idiots, education in this country at all but the elite 7 of 8 schools is a farce, and there is reams of data proving this fact. At most big programs, players regularly graduate unable to write a functional paragraph or multiply.

I agree idiots can't succeed as NFL QB, and I think lack of mental acuity and mental speed is a key reason many running prospects who never had to move past a 2nd or 3rd progression bust. They simply can never process the game fast enough mentally, and I don't think the Wonderlic or similar instruments accurately test for the kind of intelligence an NFL QB needs.

We could talk about what should be all day long. Here's what is: College coaches want to keep their jobs and avoid real jobs selling insurance or whatever. They thus play the system that allows them the best chance to win, and for a host of reasons, this is not NFL style systems in most cases.

[SkinzWin]

Per NFL Update @MySportsUpdafe

“BREAKING: #Dolphins quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick has retired from the NFL after an amazing 16 year career. Across 8 different teams, the one known as “Fitzmagic” has finished playing at the professional level”

This is why social media sucks. So much fake information out there.

[GridIron26]

Per John Clayton from ESPN, Ryan Ftizpatrick is considering retirement.. If so, that's one QB less in the QB market filled with non-starter QBs and Dak.