Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here

Buffalo Bob · 09-13-2019, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Meks

thus the difference between new to watching football and watching the evolution of the game, league and the way its being officiated for almost 30 years.

I been watching for over 50, since I was about 5. I was playing in High School when they made the head slap illegal. Our line coach taught guys to grab their own jersey when engaged with a defender to avoid illegal use of hands calls. I think it would be a kick to have a game refereed by 1970's interpretation of the rules nowadays. Do a couple games a year like that without pre-warning.

FrenchSkin · 09-13-2019, 02:26 AM

Again, our TEs blocking still is an issue in the run game, ie VD on this play... no run game expert but if he blocks his guy it seems like it could've been a solid gain.

Chico23231 · 09-13-2019, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Again, our TEs blocking still is an issue in the run game, ie VD on this play... no run game expert but if he blocks his guy it seems like it could've been a solid gain.

Per football focus, his blocking grade was in the 20s...which is lowest among all nfl tight ends across the league.

It’s a major issue

FrenchSkin · 09-13-2019, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Per football focus, his blocking grade was in the 20s...which is lowest among all nfl tight ends across the league.

It’s a major issue

Good to know. .. sometimes I feel like I hate too much on him ^^
But when I saw this play on the all 22 I was like this is not me, that's piss poor effort.

skinsfaninok · 09-13-2019, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Per football focus, his blocking grade was in the 20s...which is lowest among all nfl tight ends across the league.

It’s a major issue

VD is never a good blocker TBH.

Buffalo Bob · 09-13-2019, 08:27 AM

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VD is never a good blocker TBH.

Was never that good and got worse by the year. With his measurables you would think he would have been great as a blocker.

Number44 · 09-13-2019, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Again, our TEs blocking still is an issue in the run game, ie VD on this play... no run game expert but if he blocks his guy it seems like it could've been a solid gain.

I'm not happy with his blocking, but on this play it looks to me that he did a good job. Isn't that him riding his man back to the 20 yard line? Am I missing something?

FrenchSkin · 09-13-2019, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Number44

I'm not happy with his blocking, but on this play it looks to me that he did a good job. Isn't that him riding his man back to the 20 yard line? Am I missing something?

Nope, he barely touches his guy who makes the tackle for a short gain

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Number44 · 09-13-2019, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Nope, he barely touches his guy who makes the tackle for a short gain

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Ok, thanks. I see now VD is lined up on the right side, not the left.

Schneed10 · 09-13-2019, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Again, our TEs blocking still is an issue in the run game, ie VD on this play... no run game expert but if he blocks his guy it seems like it could've been a solid gain.

Great point and yes you can see #55 on the Eagles (Brandon Graham) chase Guice down from the back side of the play.

Graham is lined up inside Vernon which doesn't make Vernon's job easy, and Graham easily beats Vernon inside because of it, as you'd expect. But notice Graham is able to push Vernon two yards into the backfield immediately. Vernon is never going to seal Graham off on this play, the way Graham is aligned prevents it, but he at least needs to keep Graham from crossing to the Washington side of the line of scrimmage. He needs to stalemate Graham there and force him to run down the line of scrimmage, which would then let Guice get to the line of scrimmage before being contacted, and then you've got a shot at a 3 yard gain to keep the drive on schedule.

Vernon can't give ground so easily, doing so gave Graham the angle to meet Guice in the backfield and stop the play for no gain.

Defensewins · 09-13-2019, 07:01 AM

^^^^Look at where he lined up presnap. There is a huge gap between TE and RT. TE lined ups outside shoulder of a defender he has to prevent from going inside. He no chance to block him where lined up. Not just effort, it lack of intelligence and coaching.

Chico23231 · 09-13-2019, 08:35 AM

VD is an athletic freak...but he has some bad drops and cant block. I called on this past offseason as a reset at the position, but nothing done. I hope this coming offseason, TE should be our primary focus along the Oline.

Im completely dumbfounded by Bruce's handling of Brandon Schreff...its gonna cost us more in the long run. We need to lock up our great/elite players. He is fucking this up big time, along with several other situations.

CRedskinsRule · 09-13-2019, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

VD is an athletic freak...but he has some bad drops and cant block. I called on this past offseason as a reset at the position, but nothing done. I hope this coming offseason, TE should be our primary focus along the Oline.

Im completely dumbfounded by Bruce's handling of Brandon Schreff...its gonna cost us more in the long run. We need to lock up our great/elite players. He is fucking this up big time, along with several other situations.

Alot of teams will have this contract issue because the cba is up and players, especially in Scherffs situation, think the deals will be better under the new cba. And they are probably right.

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Ruhskins · 09-13-2019, 10:25 AM

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Alot of teams will have this contract issue because the cba is up and players, especially in Scherffs situation, think the deals will be better under the new cba. And they are probably right.

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Yep, this looming CBA basically killed any chance at re-signing Schreff. Also, why Trent's stupid ass is not playing, but he's putting bullshit excuses.

sdskinsfan2001 · 09-13-2019, 10:39 AM

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Yep, this looming CBA basically killed any chance at re-signing Schreff. Also, why Trent's stupid ass is not playing, but he's putting bullshit excuses.

As long as the new CBA still has the franchise tag, Scherff isn't going anywhere. If we can't get something done, we'll have to use it.

09-13-2019, 02:26 AM	#2
FrenchSkin Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 4,525	Re: Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here Again, our TEs blocking still is an issue in the run game, ie VD on this play... no run game expert but if he blocks his guy it seems like it could've been a solid gain. __________________ Derz Ambassaderz in the Land of the Rising Sun. Oui Monsieur. Last edited by FrenchSkin; 09-13-2019 at 03:56 AM.

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Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,765	Re: Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here ^^^^Look at where he lined up presnap. There is a huge gap between TE and RT. TE lined ups outside shoulder of a defender he has to prevent from going inside. He no chance to block him where lined up. Not just effort, it lack of intelligence and coaching.

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Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,040	Re: Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here VD is an athletic freak...but he has some bad drops and cant block. I called on this past offseason as a reset at the position, but nothing done. I hope this coming offseason, TE should be our primary focus along the Oline. Im completely dumbfounded by Bruce's handling of Brandon Schreff...its gonna cost us more in the long run. We need to lock up our great/elite players. He is fucking this up big time, along with several other situations. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

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