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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
I think he could easily be our #2
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Germantown, Md.
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
Maybe we should consider bringing back this guy since he has such fond memories of his short stay. [syke]
The Early Lead - Brandon Lloyd has special message for Redskins after Pro Bowl honor
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
Wow, can't believe the Cooley hate going on. The guy has been a consistent go to guy for the last few years, with the exception of last season when he was injured. You just don't give up Cooley for a fourth rounder, no sir. He's worth at least a 2nd rounder in my opinion and maybe then some.
And I think Fred Davis has some potential as well, but he doesn't quite have the hands that Cooley has, but at least he is explosive when he does get the ball.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
Instead of trading Cooley, I would trade:
McNabb Haynesworth DHall- now that he has been voted to the pro-bowl he can fetch a decent pick, re-sign Rogers and go after Champ Bailey in FA.
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Fight for old DC!
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Aldie, VA
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
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You would rather have Rogers instead of DHall? That doesn't make much sense to me. Also, DHall wouldn't get us more than 4th round pick. His contract is a little inflated (at least I think it is), and he isn't a true "shutdown" corner. DHall is a playmaker. Rogers is a player with some decent cover skills. |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 54
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
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So you'd rather trade our only defensive playmaker and re-sign Rogers (who will be 30 and has a spotty injury & benching history) and Champ, who is on the wrong side of 30 with multiple injuries over the past 3 years.. Vinny???
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
Speaking of Champ, I hear-tell that Champ isn't going to be on the Bronco's next year in all reality. I know he is getting older but what does everyone think about a Champ and Burgundy/Gold reunion tour!?!?
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Pro Bowl
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Age: 54
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
Since we play majority zone it's not necessary to have lock down man corners. Rogers isn't as strong in zone coverage and the 3-4 is predicated on getting turnovers when opportunities exist, not Rogers strength. Sure Champ CAN play into his late 30's but he won't do us much good injured 6 games on the sideline. You were saying Vinny..
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
Rogers and Hall all suffer from mediocrity. Both have the talent to be a shutdown corner, but neither of them are because there are huge flaws to their game that costs wins. Rogers covers but can't get finishing turnovers...ever. Hall gets turnovers SOMETIMES, but his gambling allows for opponents to easily move the chains and thus score. I'm willing to take a hit in secondary play if that means eventually nabbing a shutdown corner.
That said, Mike Shanahan can't find that kind of elite defensive talent...so we're stuck with mediocre CB play for years to come. I dislike them both. I'm sick of having guys who are "playmakers but choke" like Hall, Rogers, Moss.
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
revis is the only shut down corner in the league right now. I honestly think our tandem of Rogers and Hall is one of the top in the league. I wouldnt go as high as top 5, but definitely top 10. i'm honestly pretty happy with our corner situation.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NJ
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
we just need a RB,WRs,another CB, OL,DL.
thats all. this is gonna be awhile fellas... i hope somebody cuts an elite rb or wr this year.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NJ
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
I just dont see why wed wanna rebuild with Rex Grossman. Cmon guys... this is the same fanbase that used to rip on Campbell week after week... Grossmans in the same bracket and im not content.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Is it finally time to rebuild??
It assures us a poor ass record, which then means higher draft position. Oakland came out pretty well from the JaFatcus decable.
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