Patten on Ramsey

[Duffman003]

I've said that PR should be a good quarterback for the past two years, now I don't know what would have happened if he started last year but in the Old Ball Coach's second year he didn't live up to the potential.

[firstdown]

His average sack total per game was about th same in 2003 and 2004.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by firstdown

His average sack total per game was about th same in 2003 and 2004.

Yeah. However, although there is no stat for it, you could tell that his sacks in 2003, were just plain guys having a feild day with him. Where he didnt take as many hard shots in 2004. Ya know what I mean?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Yeah. However, although there is no stat for it, you could tell that his sacks in 2003, were just plain guys having a feild day with him. Where he didnt take as many hard shots in 2004. Ya know what I mean?

I totaly agree it was much worse in 2003. I was just surprised when I looked up the stat.

[offiss]

It's tough to say he held the ball to long his first few years because he never had time to hold the ball, he was guilty of trying to actually plant and throw, Brunell didn't hold the ball to long and we saw the result of what happens to a QB when we run simplistic pass patterns with WR's who can't get open, or catch the ball when they are.

Ramsey is guilty of nothing more than trying to make a play when there was nothing there, which was the case the majority of the time, teams knew exactly how to play us on defense, as Portis said it's what like they knew what we were running, as far as I am concerned Ramsey has been scapegoated by inferiour coaching his whole career, my only concern about Ramsey is will Gibbs catch up this season to utilize all of his talents?

[jermus22]

I like Ramsey's guts, courage, and leadership abilities, as well as his willingness to work hard to improve. All of those qualities are most important for any qb. Talent alone isn't enough (look at Jeff George). I also like Ramsey's rocket arm, and it's good he's shown improvement on his accuracy and ability to move around. But unless he fixes his touch on long passes, his ability to read defenses, and continues to improve his poise in the pocket, he won't remain with us beyond this year. I'm really rooting for the guy, but I also realize Campbell is waiting in the wings and has all the abilities necessary for a Gibbs type qb.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, and if they had stats for "knock downs" I bet they would be substantially higher in 2003.

[skins052bgr8]

They were out coached under the old ball coach. Defenses had a field day with the Redskins offense in 03. Game planning to pick up other teams blitzes was not a speciality so to say it was completely PR's fault for holding the ball to long is not fully accurate. Any quarterback would have struggled behind that line and blocking schemes. It was ritual week after week that teams came with the house no surprise we were just out coached. There has to be a happy medium between max protection and straight defense in your face when you drop two steps. I think the coaches are realizing that as well this year and will make the adjustments. He has followed the coaches plans to the T with Spurrier he would toss it around last year Gibbs asked him to be conservative and he adapted. PR is very smart, tough and in the right position will get it done.

[MTK]

According to this report Campbell's first wonderlic score was a 14, he took it again and got a 28.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...-QB-Auburn.htm

Positives... Has a very strong throwing arm and quick feet to avoid pressure, but is better suited throwing out of the pocket. ... Does a nice job of carrying out fakes and has a quick, high release with the strength to get the ball downfield. ... Is developing good toughness in the pocket and no longer looks for a rush lane or to hold on to the ball too long when his primary targets are covered. ... In 2004, Campbell had very good success with the deep outs, fades and posts. ... Shows better timing and the ability to give his receivers a chance to compete for the ball than he did in the past. ... Does a good job maneuvering when forced out of the pocket, but is better standing in the pocket than on the roll out, as he is more effective when he has a chance to time his throws. ... His natural athletic skills are what makes him an intriguing prospect, but understand that this is a player that has had to digest four different offensive systems during his four years in college. ... Made excellent progress in most areas of his game over the last year. ... Used to lock on to his main target too much, but coach Al Borges showed him that with patience, he does a much better job of scanning the field or taking hits stepping up in the pocket.

Negatives... Still, for a player of his size, he shows good mobility. ... When he rolls out of the pocket, he will sometimes hold the ball low and exposed, resulting in costly fumbles. ... Still needs to show better judgement, but has the power behind his throws to thread the ball in a crowd. ... His touch on his long ball has improved quite a bit, but he still needs to work on his underneath throws. ... Still has not fully grasped the mental aspect of calling his own game yet, and will need to have the plays called for him until he can prove that he can handle play-calling on his own. ... Does well in school (3.0 grade point average). His first Wonderlic test score (14) was lower than you like from a player at the quarterback position, but he then scored a much-improved 28 at the Combine in February. ... Needs to work on some fundamentals, especially his feet in his pass set, but he has the quickness to get back from center. ... Made more sound decisions in 2004 than he did in the past, but he still must improve in reading coverages.

[bertoskins]

hope he does
if not campbell will take his place

[jacobyfan]

I heard Heath Shuler had a lower score than his jersey number.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by jacobyfan

I heard Heath Shuler had a lower score than his jersey number.

http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm

Heath Shuler scored a 16.

[Davnpurt]

Ha! Jeff George got a 10.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Davnpurt

Ha! Jeff George got a 10.

He must have bombed the section on leadership

[jacobyfan]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

http://www.unc.edu/~mirabile/Wonderlic.htm

Heath Shuler scored a 16.

You're such a stick in the mud. IT WAS A JOKE!