Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread

mooby · 03-07-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

The first half sounded like the Staples Center... they even interviewed a Laker "superfan" with a Kobe mask.

It was awesome seeing Booker and Seraphin bodying up the LA big men... those guys have all the effort lacking in McGee and Blatche.

I will second that. I also loved seeing Blatche and McGee riding the pine in crunch time. I know this and the Thunder game will probably be our highlights of the season, but damn is it refreshing to see our young players (who actually want it) stepping up, playing hard unselfish basketball and it actually paying off with a win, against a good team no less.

NC_Skins · 03-08-2012, 08:34 PM

Video: Nick Young goes over the backboard on a wide-open layup ‘attempt’ | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports

lol

SmootSmack · 03-15-2012, 04:42 PM

Yahoo! Sports reporting McGee to Denver, Nick Young to Clippers, Nene, Brian Cook, and a pick to Wizards

mbedner3420 · 03-15-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yahoo! Sports reporting McGee to Denver, Nick Young to Clippers, Nene, Brian Cook, and a pick to Wizards

Nice, he can go embarrass himself in another teams jersey now

itvnetop · 03-15-2012, 05:39 PM

That Nene contract is hideous... I hope this is a potential trade piece in the off-season. At least he's a smart player, unlike JaVale. Glad to remove McGee, however- dude wasn't going to get it in DC.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-15-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

That Nene contract is hideous... I hope this is a potential trade piece in the off-season. At least he's a smart player, unlike JaVale. Glad to remove McGee, however- dude wasn't going to get it in DC.

Nene's contract is hideous? Have you seen Rashard Lewis's contract??

itvnetop · 03-15-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Nene's contract is hideous? Have you seen Rashard Lewis's contract??

Lewis' contract was only taken to rid themselves from the even worse contract EG gave Gilbert (a year longer than Lewis'). They can essentially buy out Lewis' contract this summer.

Nene's almost 30, so I hope we haven't picked up a player on his decline (even if he hasn't played as many minutes as others his age). He's getting paid a whole lot for the next four seasons. You don't think Denver had buyer's remorse for that extension? They're happy as could be with this trade...

Amnesty Blatche, buy out Lewis. Salvage something next summer.

Chico23231 · 03-15-2012, 07:02 PM

Nene is the physical presence at pf the wiz need. not bad imo.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-15-2012, 07:43 PM

Nene will most likely be playing C but ok

itvnetop · 03-15-2012, 08:14 PM

Another upside is that our tank effort may have been solidified with these trades. We traded our only outside (streaky) shooter (Mason doesn't count) for nothing (2nd round pick in 2015?!). Nene doesn't play tonight against the Hornets... huge tank game.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-15-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

Lewis' contract was only taken to rid themselves from the even worse contract EG gave Gilbert (a year longer than Lewis'). They can essentially buy out Lewis' contract this summer.

Nene's almost 30, so I hope we haven't picked up a player on his decline (even if he hasn't played as many minutes as others his age). He's getting paid a whole lot for the next four seasons. You don't think Denver had buyer's remorse for that extension? They're happy as could be with this trade...

Amnesty Blatche, buy out Lewis. Salvage something next summer.

I doubt that. The Wiz won this trade. They got rid of two knuckleheads that weren't gonna resign anyways and get a legitimate C to pair with Wall. Now you go into the off season with: Wall/Crawford/Singleton/Booker/Nene/Vesely/Mack as your core sign a backup C and draft a Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson, or Anthony Davis and your talking playoffs.

itvnetop · 03-15-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I doubt that. The Wiz won this trade. They got rid of two knuckleheads that weren't gonna resign anyways and get a legitimate C to pair with Wall. Now you go into the off season with: Wall/Crawford/Singleton/Booker/Nene/Vesely/Mack as your core sign a backup C and draft a Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson, or Anthony Davis and your talking playoffs.

These things were going to happen anyway- we weren't going to resign McGee or Young, so they'd have been gone by the end of the year. We're still going to draft in the top 5 or 6. The only point of contention is how "legitimate" Nene is for the next four years. Not talking about the rest of this season or even all of next year... but will he be worth 13/season in years 3 and 4. For a guy who doesn't do a whole lot of rebounding at his position, I'm not sure. Although I do like his defense and overall smarts, I'm just not sold on paying him that much until he's 34. I'd also like to see what Kevin Seraphin could do with more minutes.

Tell me- why would Denver extend Nene in December for a total contract of 67 million... and then happily trade him just three months later? If he was really worth that for five years, you don't trade him... especially that quickly after you extend him. I highly doubt JaVale McGee's potential was the overriding factor for Denver- getting rid of this bloated contract was top priority.

In two years, Wall + '12 lotto pick provides an attractive destination for a possible max player. Picking up Nene's contract doesn't help if we'd like to sign him and re-up Wall.

Having said all that, I'll be happy if proven totally wrong these next few seasons. I'm just not sold on Ernie Grunfeld's moves, as a whole. Last few drafts have been pretty solid, however (minus Vesely).

Chico23231 · 03-15-2012, 09:11 PM

really pissed if we didnt off Javale and Wall for Monte Ellis. Ellis wouldnt been nice here

BabyLuku · 03-20-2012, 09:23 PM

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really pissed if we didnt off Javale and Wall for Monte Ellis. Ellis wouldnt been nice here

Hey! come on!
Can't give up on wall, I still think he's going to kill it if we can get a legit scorer in the draft.

itvnetop · 03-21-2012, 12:44 AM

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really pissed if we didnt off Javale and Wall for Monte Ellis. Ellis wouldnt been nice here

No way, Wall has the potential to be a top 10 player in the league if he ever gets some help (and learns to know when to slow down). Dude's been on a tear the past few months, too. There's something about Ellis that just doesn't jive with winning basketball... not sure if it was the complete overhaul in Golden State after Nelson left, but he just hasn't been the same after his injury. We'll see what he can do in Milwaukee.

As for some good news:

LOL

Safe to say, AB is done as a Wizard.

03-08-2012, 08:34 PM	#2
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03-15-2012, 05:39 PM	#5
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 48 Posts: 3,007	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread That Nene contract is hideous... I hope this is a potential trade piece in the off-season. At least he's a smart player, unlike JaVale. Glad to remove McGee, however- dude wasn't going to get it in DC. __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather

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Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,101	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread Nene is the physical presence at pf the wiz need. not bad imo. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

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03-15-2012, 08:14 PM	#10
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 48 Posts: 3,007	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread Another upside is that our tank effort may have been solidified with these trades. We traded our only outside (streaky) shooter (Mason doesn't count) for nothing (2nd round pick in 2015?!). Nene doesn't play tonight against the Hornets... huge tank game. __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather Last edited by itvnetop; 03-15-2012 at 08:20 PM.

03-15-2012, 09:11 PM	#13
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,101	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread really pissed if we didnt off Javale and Wall for Monte Ellis. Ellis wouldnt been nice here __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

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