A-Rod tests positive for steroids

[BDBohnzie]

What's even "sadder" is the reputation that Canseco is building because of the allegations coming out. I don't know the exact context from his book, but Canseco said he did everything but inject A-Rod when it came to steroids.

But here's what stands out to me:

Baseball's drug policy prohibited the use of steroids without a valid prescription since 1991, but there were no penalties for a positive test in 2003.

Why prohibit it if you aren't going to penalize someone for it?!?!? Baseball turned a deaf ear until the public outcry came about, and now these players are going to be the scapegoat. The guys who have taken steroids would have had solid careers anyways, but decided to get that extra edge, and up until 2004, while it wasn't allowed, there was no penalty for it, so why not try to take advantage of the system? It's sad that they resorted to it, but baseball shot themselves in the foot over this.

And as SS said, these allegations make guys like Griffey, Frank Thomas, Edgar Martinez (career .312 hitter), and Fred McGriff look better and better for what they've accomplished.

[saden1]

MLB is a joke, has been for a very long time. Do people really care about the "sport" of Baseball? I always thought people went to the games to get a nice suntan, drink and socialize with friends?

I hear Manny wants to opt-out of his contract, I wonder if he's on the list?

[GMScud]

Well, A-Roid admitted it. At least he was smart enough not to deny. McGwire, Palmeiro, Clemens- all denied it, and they're all jokes now. Pettitte admitted to it right away and no one cares anymore.

A-Rod admits using performance-enhancers - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, A-Roid admitted it. At least he was smart enough not to deny. McGwire, Palmeiro, Clemens- all denied it, and they're all jokes now. Pettitte admitted to it right away and no one cares anymore.

A-Rod admits using performance-enhancers - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

cover up is often worse than the crime. Smart of him to just admit it

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

cover up is often worse than the crime. Smart of him to just admit it

No doubt. It probably wasn't a tough decision to make either. Every player that has openly admitted it has pretty much been forgiven. If he just denied and denied it would have turned into circus, and he would be dodging questions about "suspected use" the rest of his career.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by saden1

MLB is a joke, has been for a very long time. Do people really care about the "sport" of Baseball? I always thought people went to the games to get a nice suntan, drink and socialize with friends?

I hear Manny wants to opt-out of his contract, I wonder if he's on the list?

That's certainly why I go. I could give a rats ass about baseball. I can watch baseball on tv for about 3 minutes and then I have to turn the channel. I hate this time of year. Not a damn thing to do on Sundays.

[GTripp0012]

I like baseball.

[over the mountain]

im a huge yankee hater and was pissed off when the news first broke but after hearing his "apology", i accept it with no lingering hatred towards him that wasnt there before this story came out.

im glad he did what he did (even if he said he never did roids in an interview a year or so ago and only came clean after getting caught; not on his own will and conscious) and im sure his agent and team is aswell. if you come clean about doing roids when alot of people were doing it (1990-2005) then this fan gives you a pass.

of course, i might change my mind come opening day when im going to be within earshot of arod.

go skins!!

[GMScud]

This is pretty funny: Play-by-play of the A-Rod interview, plus pics and commentary! - Big League... - MLB - Yahoo! Sports


Gammons fumbled the interview a bit, and A-Rod doesn't seem too contrite to me. It's more an "I'm sorry I got caught" situation.

[SmootSmack]

To A-Rod's credit, for lack of a better term, he admitted to using in 2001 and 2002 as well when all he was accused of was 2003

[SmootSmack]

Adding to the joy

Shortstop Tejada charged with lying to Congress - Yahoo! News

[hooskins]

Although I won't go as far as skinsfan69, I feel this is getting a bit blown out of proportion. Yes, it is a shock because A-rod was suppose to be the "clean" posterboy.

But honestly, some of what he was saying is pretty true. A decent amount of people were dabbling with the gray-area of performance enhancement during that time, and baseball(specifically the comish) turned a blind eye to it. NFL NBA and others were much tougher on steroids and to claim ignorance on Bud's part is just naive.

Yeah it's wrong to take those enhancements, but if you don't have clear punishments for them what is going to stop someone? Their morality? Bullshit; money, pressure to perform, fans, etc. will drive you to do things like that without even thinking about it. It is easy for us to sit here and crucify Arod, but we can't even begin to know what we would do in that situation.

Leagues have to be on the cutting edge of testing, because what they pretty much encourage being the best and winning. People will look for an edge, and it's the comish's responsibility to keep on researching new drugs and finding way to test for them.

Arod doesn't get a free pass, but don't blame him for all this mess. Partly the fan's and mainly MLB's fault. Plus there are probably tons of ball players out their who have used some kind of steroid in the past, maybe even more goody-good arod types.

[hooskins]

As for the HOF debate, I think it's way too early. We will see Arod's full stats and maybe make a judgment then.

Also it is hypocritical to vote ANYONE from this era into the HOF without an asterisk. How do we know they took stuff or they didn't? Just because it hasn't come out, doesn't mean they didn't do drugs. If you don't vote AROD in, don't vote in anyone who played in the late 90's to the early 2000's.