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Hey Gibbs, You Need a New Playbook

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View Poll Results: How would you evaluate the playcalling this season?
It stinks 23 63.89%
It's the players, not the playcalling; Gibbs shouldn't change the playcalling 13 36.11%
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:51 PM   #1
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I can't agree with the criticism of Ray Brown. The guy held Strahan to ZERO sacks and Kearse to one sack that came on a play when Ramsey rushed up the middle. Ray Brown has done a very good job.

I thought the pass protection was the best it's been since.......Gibbs' first tenure.
He's also KILLED us in the redzone this year with moving before the snap. To me that negates the otherwise solid job he's done. Today wasn't the first time he's pushed us back on stupid penalties inside the 10. He's making rookie mental errors.
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:55 PM   #2
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He's also KILLED us in the redzone this year with moving before the snap. To me that negates the otherwise solid job he's done. Today wasn't the first time he's pushed us back on stupid penalties inside the 10. He's making rookie mental errors.
And I think that's mostly because he knows he's older than the guys he lines up against and is trying to get a step ahead so he doesn't get burned. He's trying to compensate for losing a step from age and sometimes he gets caught. Unfortunately for us, when he does get caught it usually kills us.
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:54 PM   #3
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I wonder if Gibbs remembers what a shotgun is??
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:59 PM   #4
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I wonder if Gibbs remembers what a shotgun is??
He doesn't use it. He briefly experimented with it in '84, but he quickly scrapped it.
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:04 PM   #5
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That penalty orgy starting at the 10 yard line didn't help the situation either.
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Old 11-21-2004, 07:54 PM   #6
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Ramsey had an OK game, which is light years ahead of Brunell. I have to say that the play calling was absolutely atrocious. THE WORST. Honestly, Marty Schottenhiemer's O was not this conservative... You've gotta give Portis more touches, You've gotta try somthing other than wide receiver screens. And how about the REFEREES????!!!! Pinkston stepped out of bounds 2 yards before the 1st down marker, but apparently the refs from the MNF Cowboys game were working todays game as well. HE WAS OUT OF BOUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!! Oh and how about the Focking phantom PI call on Smoot????!!!!! The guy tripped. Just great!

I seriously think that we should receive compensation in the form of an extra first round pick next year. SERIOUSLY. How can one team be this GD cursed? I'm not going to go off on my grassy nole, but the league OWES us BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, almost forgot... I think the sheer number of dropped passes and penalties in crucial situations is just ridiculous. Thanks for ripping our collective hearts out and stomping it to death. Thanks alot.
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Old 11-21-2004, 08:01 PM   #7
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Even if we used shotgun it wouldn't work. Our QB would get killed.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:13 PM   #8
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Is it just me, or did pass protection look good today? Ramsey (aka mini-Bledsoe) got sacked once. So what's up with all the criticism of the O-line (aside from penalties)?
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Is it just me, or did pass protection look good today? Ramsey (aka mini-Bledsoe) got sacked once. So what's up with all the criticism of the O-line (aside from penalties)?
Nada, aside from the penalties. But I can't help but wonder if the complexion of the game takes on a whole different tone if we don't get nailed for 20 pen yds on 3 plays from that 1st and goal on the 10. I thought the O-line did a great job of protection today and I was surprised that Coach didn't have us throwing downfield sooner in game when it looked like the line was gonna hold. But then again, it looked like on a lot of the throws downfield the timing was still off between PR and recievers.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:31 PM   #10
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Is it just me, or did pass protection look good today? Ramsey (aka mini-Bledsoe) got sacked once. So what's up with all the criticism of the O-line (aside from penalties)?
Pass protection was better than it's been, but I thought the run blocking was pretty piss poor a lot of the time. We were getting blown up on some running plays leaving the backs nowhere to go or a defender right in their face once they received the handoff.

Aside from the penalties? Like that wasn't a big deal?

How many penalties did the line have today? It was quite a few.
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Pass protection was better than it's been, but I thought the run blocking was pretty piss poor a lot of the time. We were getting blown up on some running plays leaving the backs nowhere to go or a defender right in their face once they received the handoff.

Aside from the penalties? Like that wasn't a big deal?

How many penalties did the line have today? It was quite a few.
The penalties didn't cause us to lose the game. They killed one drive and one scoring opportunity. We got spanked.

The playcalling was dreadful and, IMO, that was the #1 (although not the only) reason why we lost.
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The penalties didn't cause us to lose the game. They killed one drive and one scoring opportunity.
They killed a scoring drive that would have put us within one, possibly tied (with a 2 point conversion) and a questionable PI on Smoot put the Eagles in the Red Zone and another questionable call (Pinkston out of bounds) kept a drive alive
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:26 PM   #13
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I'm sorry but what is up with "hey Gibbs, you need a new playbook"

While I understand not following a coach (or Quarterback) blindly, us LONG time Redskins fans happen to know what Joe Gibbs is capable of doing for this team and those who are buying into the media bandwagon that the game has passed him by know absolutely nothing about football.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:32 PM   #14
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Gibbs was trying to establish a ball controlled game plan that would feature our best offensive player, Portis, while keeping the Eagles' offense OFF the field. Seems like a wiser game plan to me. If we took more shots downfield (which a few more than maybe we have had) then you could be looking at more three and outs and less time of possession...which giving it to the Eagles O more is just not smart.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:34 PM   #15
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There were several false starts....
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