F...Ignorant, Panic-Stricken "Fans"

[Hog1]

I wonder if last years savior, Sean Payton is now the N.O village idiot?

[squrrelco3]

I was a fan when we won three super bowls and I was a fan when we lost 13 games...I'm still a fan now, and will always be no matter what. Gibbs may or may not have made a mistake, but he's a HOF coach, unless anyone else on here can boast those kind of credentials I would suggest you lay off the F-Gibbs bandwagon, I'm not saying don't criticise, just remember, he's been doing it a lot longer and better than you have.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I dont think it was the loss that got to everyone, It was the way that we lost. But whatever I said my piece on it now I am looking towards the Lions game. Hopefully the Rams can pull an upset on the Cowboys which seems impossible seeing that Steven Jackson is not playing.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I dont think it was the loss that got to everyone, It was the way that we lost. But whatever I said my piece on it now I am looking towards the Lions game. Hopefully the Rams can pull an upset on the Cowboys which seems impossible seeing that Steven Jackson is not playing.

Exactly....its not that we lost, its that we lost like that...and its becoming all too fimiliar for Redskins fans, especially us who are a bit younger and never got to experiance the "glory years"....it just seems like this happens year, after year, after year so I dont get why people are "idiots" or "not fans" when they are basically trained to think this way becuase the team does this over and over and over again?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Exactly....its not that we lost, its that we lost like that...and its becoming all too fimiliar for Redskins fans, especially us who are a bit younger and never got to experiance the "glory years"....it just seems like this happens year, after year, after year so I dont get why people are "idiots" or "not fans" when they are basically trained to think this way becuase the team does this over and over and over again?

One example of "not fans" "Not fans" are the ones who are nowhere to be found after the first 2 wins of the season, and then bitch and moan after this loss.

And how would you want us to lose?

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

One example of "not fans" "Not fans" are the ones who are nowhere to be found after the first 2 wins of the season, and then bitch and moan after this loss.

And how would you want us to lose?

I want us to lose when were not the best team on the feild...I think the reason we get so frustrated by these losses...is they are rarley that we get outplayed, and rarley do we face teams with more talent...clearly we came out of the locker room..it wasent a back and fourth and back and fourth game..we DOMINATED that team for a half, and then decided not to play anymore, just watch. We choked. I can deal with losses just fine when we are clearly outplayed or just cant match-up with teams...if/when we play New England, and we lose ..i'll be pretty accepting of that because they're a better football team... I dont think the New York Giants are not a better football team than us, and they werent better than us really on Sunday, but we let it get away...just like I'll be Irate if we lose to the Lions or Cardinals at home...they're no better than we are, were at home, were supposed to have a HOF head coach, and the best offensive/defensive coordinators in the league..... In my opinion that sucks.

I've said it about a hundred times the past 3 days...Good Football teams NEVER EVER blow a 14 point lead at home, to the worst freaking defense in football.

And this is directed to no one inperticular...but the next person who puts "Fans" in the word quotes, I'm going to flip out on...because if people feel that strongly about this stuff and have been in a crappy mood all week and were pissed off after the game clearly care a little bit....I'm sick of freaking losing, and acting like people are hoping that things go bad is just ignorant.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I want us to lose when were not the best team on the feild...I think the reason we get so frustrated by these losses...is they are rarley that we get outplayed, and rarley do we face teams with more talent...clearly we came out of the locker room..it wasent a back and fourth and back and fourth game..we DOMINATED that team for a half, and then decided not to play anymore, just watch. We choked. I can deal with losses just fine when we are clearly outplayed or just cant match-up with teams...if/when we play New England, and we lose ..i'll be pretty accepting of that because they're a better football team... I dont think the New York Giants are not a better football team than us, and they werent better than us really on Sunday, but we let it get away...just like I'll be Irate if we lose to the Lions or Cardinals at home...they're no better than we are, were at home, were supposed to have a HOF head coach, and the best offensive/defensive coordinators in the league..... In my opinion that sucks.

I've said it about a hundred times the past 3 days...Good Football teams NEVER EVER blow a 14 point lead at home, to the worst freaking defense in football.

And this is directed to no one inperticular...but the next person who puts "Fans" in the word quotes, I'm going to flip out on...because if people feel that strongly about this stuff and have been in a crappy mood all week and were pissed off after the game clearly care a little bit....I'm sick of freaking losing, and acting like people are hoping that things go bad is just ignorant.

Well, you and I both know there are people on this board who want to do nothing but complain. We've discussed this. Maybe they're fans, but they are fairweather to say the least. It's total bull in my opinion to imply (and I don't think you in particular are doing this) that you have to start threads like "Joe Must Go" to show that you care. You think I'm happy we lost? Of course I'm not

Of course it sucks that we lost to a team we should have beaten. By the same token, it was awesome that went on the road against a division opponent and won a game we were expected to lose. How quickly we forget that though. We didn't get it done. We (as I've pointed out in I think three other threads) had the same approach as the Patriots with a two score lead. They executed, we did not. We had the chance to go 3-0 into the bye week (and 2-0 against the NFC East) and we didn't. Instead, we're "only" 2-1.

Those of us who aren't ready to hang ourselves, aren't happy we lost. We're just not going to fold on the season because one bad loss. Not saying you are. But this is (as someone else pointed out) reminiscent of that terrible loss to Oakland two years ago where afterward half the board wanted to jump off a cliff.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

One example of "not fans" "Not fans" are the ones who are nowhere to be found after the first 2 wins of the season, and then bitch and moan after this loss.

And how would you want us to lose?

I would rather have another 36-0 loss to the Giants where we just get dominated, than lose the way we did on Sunday.

[GiantsSuck703]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I would rather have another 36-0 loss to the Ginats where we just get dominated, than lose the way we did on Sunday.

I would love to agree with you but i just cant, the 36-0 loss was pathetic and the fact that these guys showed fight at the end of the game, despite the horrible plays Saunders was sending in, shows me we have a good team on our hands. I felt sick after the loss but this is my team, has been and always will be til' the day I die, and at the tender age of 22, Im hoping to see the skins play there heart out more and more. We can be mad and trust me I am, but the simple fact is, last year we were a lifeless 5-11 team and this year were a 2-1 fighter who may lose a bad game here or there, but they go down swinging. Campbell showed something on that last drive, and ARE was nearly unstoppable on that last drive, including his monster punt return. Dont be ashamed of this team at all, there very young and losses like this will happen to a team with such youth, but there going to learn from it, Im so excited about where this team is going, sure we lost a game we should have won, but look at the NFC, were still up there in the standings and I think things will only get better.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I would rather have another 36-0 loss to the Ginats where we just get dominated, than lose the way we did on Sunday.

I understand what you're saying...I thought that at first too. But fact is, we were better than them until the play calling stunk up the place. Also, as Giantsuck says, we made a good attack at the end. There is a lot to build on even though it was a crushing loss.
I firmly believe that if we correct the play calling issues, not only do we win that game, but we are one of the best teams in the NFC.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I would rather have another 36-0 loss to the Giants where we just get dominated, than lose the way we did on Sunday.

That's just crazy Quake. If we had lost 36-0 even I would be in freak out mode.

[jbcjr14]

Winning cures everything. Regroup and come back after the bye and play Redskin football and all will be fine.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Would people have been more happy about the state of our team had we been totally dominated in both halves? Sometimes I think the answer might be yes.

As for our previous wins not being "good wins," I'd like to see us blow teams out of the water but we're simply not dominant enough to do that. Moreover, I think we should be given some credit for winning in OT, particularly when we are giving the team so much flak for narrowly losing. Finally, I think that our victory against the eagles by more than 7 points deserves some praise, particularly in light of what the Eagles did last week to the Lions.

[redskins159]

I would just like to say that there are only two teams with better records than us right now. And one of these two teams we play in two weeks. The nfc looks incredibly weak this year, the bears are 1-2 with an apparent qb controversy, and maybe the nfc favorite saints are 0-3 and have lost badly in each game. We are still in very good shape to do well in the nfc. We have a very winable game with detroit in two weeks. If we have a strong standing in green bay will we be among the best teams in the nfc. Even if we only split each divisional opponent we should still be in the hunt for the playoffs so I am not that worried.

[jsarno]

For the record SS, I don't want Gibbs fired, I don't think the season is over, I want the coaching staff to stop being conservative and letting other teams back into the game. The Colts NEVER play conservative and look at them.