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Schneed10 · 06-01-2007, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Do you guys like anybody in the NBA?

Is there a consensus "good guy" that everyone generally likes?

That's a good question.

I like Tim Duncan a lot, but he's not exciting or flashy enough for some, and considered "soft" to others.

MTK · 06-01-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

That's a good question.

I like Tim Duncan a lot, but he's not exciting or flashy enough for some, and considered "soft" to others.

I've always liked Duncan too, he's gotta be considered one of the best big men in the history of the game.

12thMan · 06-01-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

That's a good question.

I like Tim Duncan a lot, but he's not exciting or flashy enough for some, and considered "soft" to others.

I tell you what, Duncan get's honorable mention, only to King James, when it come to whining about fouls and calls. Watch him during the next series. Every other call he's going to think he was fouled.

MTK · 06-01-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I tell you what, Duncan get's honorable mention, only to King James, when it come to whining about fouls and calls. Watch him during the next series. Every other call he's going to think he was fouled.

LOL that didn't take long before someone cut down Duncan.

So again, is there a guy out there in the NBA that most people like?

How about Nash?

12thMan · 06-01-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

LOL that didn't take long before someone cut down Duncan.

So again, is there a guy out there in the NBA that most people like?

How about Nash?

Steve Nash get's my "most likable" vote. He keeps his mouth shut, he's not a crybaby, he's an intense competitor..and he's a great, great ball player.

skinsfanthru&thru · 06-04-2007, 02:09 AM

I can't believe I'm going to say this as a Laker's fan, but go Spurs. I think Lebron is an amazing player for someone of his age and lack of development ie college, but I can't root for his team thanks to the consistent barage of the media slurping this guy. Now they are already calling him the next great legendary player?! I don't doubt he might be in another 10 years or so, but right now? he hasn't even won anything yet. I know for a fact if he keeps up his pace statistically he will finish his career as a top 10-15 player of all time if not higher, but for heavens sake he's only been in the league for 4 years so let's give him a chance to show he has longevity. It's the same with players like Crosby in hockey, a wide assortment of nfl players including Vince Young and Brady Quinn, a handful of mlb players, and upcoming nba players Durant and Oden. I just hate the mentality of today's media of crowning players before they've proven anything and forcing the idea of the next great player upon us and setting a lot of them up for nothing but being deemed a failure unless certain criteria are meet within a very short time frame.

hooskins · 06-13-2007, 12:59 PM

See for some reason LeBron choked once again. Although he had the ball in his hands, he did not take over the game like he is capable of. Honestly it looks like he doesnt want the ball in the 4th.

ArtMonkDrillz · 06-01-2007, 11:11 AM

You're right, everyone does argue calls. I think it's funny that they had the crack down on the histrionics at the beginning of the season but then stopped around Christmas.
Lebron just seems to piss me off more than most players when he does it because I feel like he gets away with much more than someone like Gibson would because of who he is, or rather who he's supposed to become.
Everytime I see him walk down the court with his arms stretched out, the ball in one hand, and his jaw half way to the floor because he was called for a walk I pray that the ref will actually grow some balls and T him up, but it never happens. You can't show up the refs like that!
When he pulls that crap it looks like he's doing a Harlem Globetrotters routine or something. I can't wait for the day when Dick Bravetta tries to chase after him but ends up falling because Drew Gooden secretly tied his shoe laces together while Lebron had him distracted.

Ok, new subject. Scroll down to #1 in this Bill Simmons' article for some good Lebron analysis.

ArtMonkDrillz · 06-01-2007, 11:37 AM

I like Nash. I also like Wade, and I know I'll might get attacked for saying this after going off on Lebron but I love Iverson. I know most people wouldn't consider him a "good guy" as such, but he's the man, IMO.

I didn't start watching any basketball until my freshman year of college ('00-'01) and even then I pretty much just stuck to college, but I did watch the Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA Finals that year and that's when I developed my man-crush on AI.
He would get creamed 90% of the times that he drove the lane and yet he'd hop right back up and continue to run around like Phillip the Hyper-hypo. it seemed like he could make any shot he wanted to and that no one could stop him. The 76ers did end up losing to the Lakers that year, but he was still the best part of the entire series for me.

SmootSmack · 06-01-2007, 12:07 PM

I'll tell you what, the Wizards top 3 players just happen to be 3 of the NBA Good Guys. Arenas, Butler, and Jamison. Make me proud to be a Wizards fan.

ArtMonkDrillz · 06-01-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'll tell you what, the Wizards top 3 players just happen to be 3 of the NBA Good Guys. Arenas, Butler, and Jamison. Make me proud to be a Wizards fan.

The fact that Butler overcame the crap from his teenage years and is now considered to be an NBA good guy has got to be a testament to him and to the people around him that have helped to make him into the man he is now. I agree with you 100%, he makes me proud to be a Wizards fan; those 3 all do.

One rumor from Simmons that had me a bit concerned the other day is that we might trade Jamison for RUBEN PATTERSON! I really hope that doesn't happen, even if he is younger and has comparable skills.

SmootSmack · 06-01-2007, 12:36 PM

The rumor was Patterson to the Wizards, Jamison to the Hawks and who knows what to the Blazers. I asked some reliable folk and it appears to be nothing more than some imaginary scenario created by the Chicago Tribune (or maybe it was the Sun-Times). Patterson is actually more likely to go to the Bulls.

FRPLG · 06-01-2007, 01:11 PM

What's up with the intermitent chatter going around about Jamison being traded? I like AJ. He hits big shots and has the skill to take the team on his shoulders for a short time if Gil is hurt. Sure he plays defense as well as I would but it is not like anyone else on that team plays D. Although he he is a particularly poor defender.

SmootSmack · 06-01-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

What's up with the intermitent chatter going around about Jamison being traded? I like AJ. He hits big shots and has the skill to take the team on his shoulders for a short time if Gil is hurt. Sure he plays defense as well as I would but it is not like anyone else on that team plays D. Although he he is a particularly poor defender.

It's all because of salary cap. Nothing more, nothing less

itvnetop · 06-02-2007, 07:25 PM

If Lebron makes the finals, he's a step farther than he was last season- even if they do get swept (but I don't think he'd let that happen). Remember, they lost in 7 to Detroit last year. Give him time- he's only three years removed from high school- and he doesn't have a Scotty Pippen or a Shaq on his team like Mike or Kobe. He's not surrounded by Matrices, STATs and a sick Nash-like PG. He's on the Cleveland Cavs, not some perennial winner...

He's going to evolve the game (much as I hated him for LeTravel against our boys) b/c of his ability to see the floor like Magic and take over a game like Mike in the 4th. Plus no one's seen a guy 6-8, 240 with his power, speed and agility. As for the rings, I'm willing to wager he'll have a few before his career is over.

06-04-2007, 02:09 AM	#6
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	Re: lebron, WOW I can't believe I'm going to say this as a Laker's fan, but go Spurs. I think Lebron is an amazing player for someone of his age and lack of development ie college, but I can't root for his team thanks to the consistent barage of the media slurping this guy. Now they are already calling him the next great legendary player?! I don't doubt he might be in another 10 years or so, but right now? he hasn't even won anything yet. I know for a fact if he keeps up his pace statistically he will finish his career as a top 10-15 player of all time if not higher, but for heavens sake he's only been in the league for 4 years so let's give him a chance to show he has longevity. It's the same with players like Crosby in hockey, a wide assortment of nfl players including Vince Young and Brady Quinn, a handful of mlb players, and upcoming nba players Durant and Oden. I just hate the mentality of today's media of crowning players before they've proven anything and forcing the idea of the next great player upon us and setting a lot of them up for nothing but being deemed a failure unless certain criteria are meet within a very short time frame. __________________ "Ahhh, so you're stupid in 3 languages?"

06-13-2007, 12:59 PM	#7
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: lebron, WOW See for some reason LeBron choked once again. Although he had the ball in his hands, he did not take over the game like he is capable of. Honestly it looks like he doesnt want the ball in the 4th. __________________ Vacancy

06-01-2007, 11:11 AM	#8
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 43 Posts: 8,029	Re: lebron, WOW You're right, everyone does argue calls. I think it's funny that they had the crack down on the histrionics at the beginning of the season but then stopped around Christmas. Lebron just seems to piss me off more than most players when he does it because I feel like he gets away with much more than someone like Gibson would because of who he is, or rather who he's supposed to become. Everytime I see him walk down the court with his arms stretched out, the ball in one hand, and his jaw half way to the floor because he was called for a walk I pray that the ref will actually grow some balls and T him up, but it never happens. You can't show up the refs like that! When he pulls that crap it looks like he's doing a Harlem Globetrotters routine or something. I can't wait for the day when Dick Bravetta tries to chase after him but ends up falling because Drew Gooden secretly tied his shoe laces together while Lebron had him distracted. Ok, new subject. Scroll down to #1 in this Bill Simmons' article for some good Lebron analysis. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

06-01-2007, 11:37 AM	#9
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 43 Posts: 8,029	Re: lebron, WOW I like Nash. I also like Wade, and I know I'll might get attacked for saying this after going off on Lebron but I love Iverson. I know most people wouldn't consider him a "good guy" as such, but he's the man, IMO. I didn't start watching any basketball until my freshman year of college ('00-'01) and even then I pretty much just stuck to college, but I did watch the Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA Finals that year and that's when I developed my man-crush on AI. He would get creamed 90% of the times that he drove the lane and yet he'd hop right back up and continue to run around like Phillip the Hyper-hypo. it seemed like he could make any shot he wanted to and that no one could stop him. The 76ers did end up losing to the Lakers that year, but he was still the best part of the entire series for me. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

06-01-2007, 12:07 PM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: lebron, WOW I'll tell you what, the Wizards top 3 players just happen to be 3 of the NBA Good Guys. Arenas, Butler, and Jamison. Make me proud to be a Wizards fan. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-01-2007, 12:36 PM	#12
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: lebron, WOW The rumor was Patterson to the Wizards, Jamison to the Hawks and who knows what to the Blazers. I asked some reliable folk and it appears to be nothing more than some imaginary scenario created by the Chicago Tribune (or maybe it was the Sun-Times). Patterson is actually more likely to go to the Bulls. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-01-2007, 01:11 PM	#13
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: lebron, WOW What's up with the intermitent chatter going around about Jamison being traded? I like AJ. He hits big shots and has the skill to take the team on his shoulders for a short time if Gil is hurt. Sure he plays defense as well as I would but it is not like anyone else on that team plays D. Although he he is a particularly poor defender.

06-02-2007, 07:25 PM	#15
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 48 Posts: 3,007	Re: lebron, WOW If Lebron makes the finals, he's a step farther than he was last season- even if they do get swept (but I don't think he'd let that happen). Remember, they lost in 7 to Detroit last year. Give him time- he's only three years removed from high school- and he doesn't have a Scotty Pippen or a Shaq on his team like Mike or Kobe. He's not surrounded by Matrices, STATs and a sick Nash-like PG. He's on the Cleveland Cavs, not some perennial winner... He's going to evolve the game (much as I hated him for LeTravel against our boys) b/c of his ability to see the floor like Magic and take over a game like Mike in the 4th. Plus no one's seen a guy 6-8, 240 with his power, speed and agility. As for the rings, I'm willing to wager he'll have a few before his career is over.

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