Redskins Promote Kevin O'Connell To Offensive Coordinator; Matt Cavanaugh Moves To Senior Offensive Assistant

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

I know we probably won't get this answer truthfully, but I'd like to know did this come from Jay? Did he like what he's seen from O'Connell and his coaching/scheming that he wanted more from him? Or is this Bruce/Dan going "hey they say this O'Connell kid is the next McVay...let's make him the OC in case we want to promote him to head coach next season. Hey Jay, O'Connell is your new OC...make it work!"

I have the exact same question, and it's a very important one to understanding whether Redskins Park has actually taken any steps towards competency.

Judging by the reports that the Bowles and Gregg Williams interviews were being arranged by Snyder, I think we have our answer.

Though I don't know what's worse - Snyder stepping in on the defensive coordinator decisions, or Jay going to bat for Manusky.

Hell, if Jay went to bat for Manusky, if I were Snyder I'd probably stick my nose in too. Except I'd do it the right way - I'd fire Gruden and insist on a new Head Coach who's willing to recruit the best coach available, regardless of whether he has a previous working relationship.

[Schneed10]

A big reason Snyder wants to keep Gruden around is he has soured on paying coaches to go away.

But that has to be a cost of doing business if you're going to maintain a healthy power structure.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

A big reason Snyder wants to keep Gruden around is he has soured on paying coaches to go away.

But that has to be a cost of doing business if you're going to maintain a healthy power structure.

If Snyder is about anything, its about keeping the power structure as diseased as possible. The bold move would have been to fire Jay and promote O'Connell to HC.

Is Jay still calling plays? If so, Kevin is already being undermined. Not calling plays is chopping the knees from an OC.

[Chico23231]

The power struggles and front office structures inside Ashburn has been an embarrassment since day 1 of Dan Snyder's ownership...its no surprised these same issues have trickled down to the Coaching staffs.

Dan Snyder, regardless of false narrative, has never stopped meddling within every facet of the org and team.

Kevin Sheehan was rehashing some Snyder drama with his personal choice of Jeff George...Marty Shottenheimer power struggle....we see history repeat itself over and over, Snyder's arrogance and ignorance has never changed. He hasn't learned a fucking thing. Zero culture, conflict, power struggles, etc...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The power struggles and front office structures inside Ashburn has been an embarrassment since day 1 of Dan Snyder's ownership...its no surprised these same issues have trickled down to the Coaching staffs.

Dan Snyder, regardless of false narrative, has never stopped meddling within every facet of the org and team.

Kevin Sheehan was rehashing some Snyder drama with his personal choice of Jeff George...Marty Shottenheimer power struggle....we see history repeat itself over and over, Snyder's arrogance and ignorance has never changed. He hasn't learned a fucking thing. Zero culture, conflict, power struggles, etc...

The thing I find most frustrating is there's an easy fix to all of this nonsense. Hire a true football guy as GM and get the fuck out of the way. Give that person total autonomy over football operations for 5 years and see what fucking happens. It can't be any worse than the last 20 years.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by MTK

The thing I find most frustrating is there's an easy fix to all of this nonsense. Hire a true football guy as GM and get the fuck out of the way. Give that person total autonomy over football operations for 5 years and see what fucking happens. It can't be any worse than the last 20 years.

i am wondering if this will ever happen under dan

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

The thing I find most frustrating is there's an easy fix to all of this nonsense. Hire a true football guy as GM and get the fuck out of the way. Give that person total autonomy over football operations for 5 years and see what fucking happens. It can't be any worse than the last 20 years.

exactly...the key to Snyders ability to meddle is keeping a Vinny or Bruce within arms reach...when Marty for the single year was able to stop it, Dan couldn't handle it.

There is a ton of talent of GMs "in waiting" right now throughout the league...Seattle, KC, New England, Philly, and Vikings all have guys who are extremely talented waiting for the opportunity. Its really ashame...and a sham to the fans with Bruce in the building.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

The thing I find most frustrating is there's an easy fix to all of this nonsense. Hire a true football guy as GM and get the fuck out of the way. Give that person total autonomy over football operations for 5 years and see what fucking happens. It can't be any worse than the last 20 years.

Totally agree! I thought they were doing this with McScot, but that turned out to not be the case.

[gibbsrcnfan]

Originally Posted by MTK

The thing I find most frustrating is there's an easy fix to all of this nonsense. Hire a true football guy as GM and get the fuck out of the way. Give that person total autonomy over football operations for 5 years and see what fucking happens. It can't be any worse than the last 20 years.

Matty that's the most fustrating thing these past 20 years .. hire the football people and sit back get out of the way.. .damn you synder.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by gibbsrcnfan

Matty that's the most fustrating thing these past 20 years .. hire the football people and sit back get out of the way.. .damn you synder.

It seems like a simple idea to implement. But then again I'm not a narcissistic asshole. Maybe an asshole but not narcissistic. How can you be a loser for so long and not make and personal changes?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

It seems like a simple idea to implement. But then again I'm not a narcissistic asshole. Maybe an asshole but not narcissistic. How can you be a loser for so long and not make and personal changes?

Easy, when the whole world shits on you, you just bury your head in the sand (the sand is your $100 mil yacht in this case).

There is a simple fix here as previously mentioned but no way DS would bring in a real football guy and hand him the keys, as a self-made billionaire he has probably convinced himself that he's the right guy for the job.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by MTK

The thing I find most frustrating is there's an easy fix to all of this nonsense. Hire a true football guy as GM and get the fuck out of the way. Give that person total autonomy over football operations for 5 years and see what fucking happens. It can't be any worse than the last 20 years.

I do not believe he will EVER do this. It's just not in him. He wants his fingerprint on the team, so that if they ever DID have success, he can say..I DID THIS! Just like Jerry Jones...he wants the credit for the success...but unlike Jerry, he has nothing to say when they're not having success...which is why you never hear anything from him anymore.

[Chico23231]

Listening to beat reporter Michael Phillips this morning...he said the Kevin O'Connell move is extremely significant.

1. Gruden is a lame duck, and O'Connell who is very highly thought of in the Org will hands down be the odds on favorite to replace him...this move is totally with the future of org in mind.

2. Who was down at Senior Bowl scouting QBs? Not Jay Gruden, but O'Connell. O'Connell was extremely active in workouts and observations.

3. Phillips said the Redskins will take a QB with one of their first 2 picks. Its a done deal...the question will be moving up in the first round is very much on the table. It give O'Connell a head start in working with "his guy" right away.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Listening to beat reporter Michael Phillips this morning...he said the Kevin O'Connell move is extremely significant.

1. Gruden is a lame duck, and O'Connell who is very highly thought of in the Org will hands down be the odds on favorite to replace him...this move is totally with the future of org in mind.

2. Who was down at Senior Bowl scouting QBs? Not Jay Gruden, but O'Connell. O'Connell was extremely active in workouts and observations.

3. Phillips said the Redskins will take a QB with one of their first 2 picks. Its a done deal...the question will be moving up in the first round is very much on the table. It give O'Connell a head start in working with "his guy" right away.

This is terrible.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

This is terrible.

Well...it fits the trend across the country and I do like the fact he is warming up the car. O'Connell is highly thought of in some parts of the league.

The move makes more sense now...



Phillips also briefly talked about McVay...essentially McVay NEVER was gonna be the HC here. Gruden was coming off back to back winning seasons and even if Gruden was fired, McVay would have refused the job because him and Jay are extremely close. McVay too principle to take that job at that time. I thought that was interesting.