Parkland Shooting

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Here are some stories of who the victims are:

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022...hool-shooting/

Just terrible and sad. How could someone do this to children just beyond any reason.

[mredskins]

https://apple.news/ARMixKYV-T6G7-s0gN3pDZw

This shooter was never on any radar. Not much we as a society can do if a suddenly sane person snaps.

Obviously no guns in our country would have thrown a wrench in his plans but we are so saturated with gums now it’s nearly impossible to rid our country of guns.

State officials on Wednesday said Ramos wasn’t well known to law enforcement before the shooting and had no documented mental health issues and no known arrest record. If Ramos had a juvenile criminal record, it’s possible officials wouldn’t have access to it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

https://apple.news/ARMixKYV-T6G7-s0gN3pDZw

This shooter was never on any radar. Not much we as a society can do if a suddenly sane person snaps.

Obviously no guns in our country would have thrown a wrench in his plans but we are so saturated with gums now it’s nearly impossible to rid our country of guns.

State officials on Wednesday said Ramos wasn’t well known to law enforcement before the shooting and had no documented mental health issues and no known arrest record. If Ramos had a juvenile criminal record, it’s possible officials wouldn’t have access to it.

Drug addict mother and father not in his life, that’s the base recipe for mental anguish. The Buffalo shooter, spent his Covid lockdowns teenage years getting radicalized in popular racist corners of the internet. In looking at mass shooters, a lot of these people are so young..17-18-19-20. Also the rise in crime in large cities have been driven by young offenders. The rise in car jackings…driven by offender 14,15,16.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Drug addict mother and father not in his life, that’s the base recipe for mental anguish. The Buffalo shooter, spent his Covid lockdowns teenage years getting radicalized in popular racist corners of the internet. In looking at mass shooters, a lot of these people are so young..17-18-19-20. Also the rise in crime in large cities have been driven by young offenders. The rise in car jackings…driven by offender 14,15,16.

That alone is not getting you on any watch list. My point was specific to this texas shooter there was really no signs he was going to do this.

There is a interview with his grandfather, kudos to that guy for coming out and facing the fire, sounds like he is ex criminal but has turned his life around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5OE9qKB74

Again this is a sucker punch no one saw coming. My only answer would be that every school in America must act as though this sucker punch is coming and be prepared on a daily basis. I don't know that specific school's protocols but somehow the shooter got in. My kids schools are heavily locked down and both have officers there all day, still nothing is 100%.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Drug addict mother and father not in his life, that’s the base recipe for mental anguish. The Buffalo shooter, spent his Covid lockdowns teenage years getting radicalized in popular racist corners of the internet. In looking at mass shooters, a lot of these people are so young..17-18-19-20. Also the rise in crime in large cities have been driven by young offenders. The rise in car jackings…driven by offender 14,15,16.

I swear you suffer from ADD +ADHD you might even be on the scale.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Drug addict mother and father not in his life, that’s the base recipe for mental anguish. The Buffalo shooter, spent his Covid lockdowns teenage years getting radicalized in popular racist corners of the internet. In looking at mass shooters, a lot of these people are so young..17-18-19-20. Also the rise in crime in large cities have been driven by young offenders. The rise in car jackings…driven by offender 14,15,16.

I need to save this. Progress!

I never thought Chico would be "Left" of Tucker Carlson but here we are.
https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlso...143833018.html

Btw the racist corner of the internet is Foxnews!
They've radicalized my aunts and uncles.

[BaltimoreSkins]

The Onion knocked it out of the park yesterday and today. https://www.theonion.com/

Normally the headline the day after a mass shooting in the U.S. is the location of the shooting and:

"'No way to prevent this,' says only nation where this regularly happens

They made every link on the page to a different version they ran with the different cities mass shootings have taken place. Then they had some great satirical articles towards the NRA.

https://www.theonion.com/report-uval...ing-1848976025

https://www.theonion.com/nra-sets-1-...t-w-1819573533

https://www.theonion.com/nra-publish...g-a-1830418497

It goes on and on. Bravo Onion Bravo

[mooby]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

The Onion knocked it out of the park yesterday and today. https://www.theonion.com/

Normally the headline the day after a mass shooting in the U.S. is the location of the shooting and:

"'No way to prevent this,' says only nation where this regularly happens

They made every link on the page to a different version they ran with the different cities mass shootings have taken place. Then they had some great satirical articles towards the NRA.

https://www.theonion.com/report-uval...ing-1848976025

https://www.theonion.com/nra-sets-1-...t-w-1819573533

https://www.theonion.com/nra-publish...g-a-1830418497

It goes on and on. Bravo Onion Bravo

https://www.theonion.com/mitch-mccon...e-r-1848977425

I laughed. Thanks.

https://www.theonion.com/bad-time-fo...egs-1848976272

Seriously, the Onion is killing it with these blurbs. Murdering it you could say. Slaughtering my bad mood.

[mredskins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x98h_BmY8-M

More stuff coming out.

IMO as a community when you see stuff on social media especially if it is DMed to you got report it.

Seem like the school even had very good barriers to prevent this. So sad.

Everyday my kids get off the bus and come home I feel blessed.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mredskins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x98h_BmY8-M

More stuff coming out.

IMO as a community when you see stuff on social media especially if it is DMed to you got report it.

Seem like the school even had very good barriers to prevent this. So sad.

Everyday my kids get off the bus and come home I feel blessed.

The Police confronted him before he got inside but he had body armor on and broke into a classroom.

[Giantone]

I have never done this before on any "go fund account" but I did donate.




https://news.yahoo.com/gofundme-teac...181127364.html


GoFundMe for teacher killed in Texas shatters goal with help from Michigan philanthropist

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

The Police confronted him before he got inside but he had body armor on and broke into a classroom.

No, the police did not confront him and they did not have security at the school. A lotta misinformation initially, but people just trying to get answers…so I get it.

But the police response was absolutely pathetic from what I read as “what happened” unfolds.

I think maybe raising the age for semi automatic rifles to 21 would be something to think about. I really think security for schools would be another, take the money from 100 billion the teachers Union stole in the Covid bill. 1-2 year mandatory sentence for an Illegal possessed firearm.

Those are my suggestions. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna continue to hear all this horseshit whining from the left who run the most dangerous, violence ridden shit holes in this country who refuse to prosecute daily gun crimes in their own city.

Sit the fuck down.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

No, the police did not confront him and they did not have security at the school. A lotta misinformation initially, but people just trying to get answers…so I get it.

But the police response was absolutely pathetic from what I read as “what happened” unfolds.

I think maybe raising the age for semi automatic rifles to 21 would be something to think about. I really think security for schools would be another, take the money from 100 billion the teachers Union stole in the Covid bill. 1-2 year mandatory sentence for an Illegal possessed firearm.

Those are my suggestions. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna continue to hear all this horseshit whining from the left who run the most dangerous, violence ridden shit holes in this country who refuse to prosecute daily gun crimes in their own city.

Sit the fuck down.

You're just too fucking stupid for this conversation ,keep drinking!

[Giantone]

Now the republicans are running to save their own ass's instead of thinking about what the fuck happen!


https://news.yahoo.com/changing-stor...211229476.html


USA TODAY
Changing stories on Texas shooting: What Abbott, DPS said over 3 different press conferences.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

No, the police did not confront him and they did not have security at the school. A lotta misinformation initially, but people just trying to get answers…so I get it.

But the police response was absolutely pathetic from what I read as “what happened” unfolds.

I think maybe raising the age for semi automatic rifles to 21 would be something to think about. I really think security for schools would be another, take the money from 100 billion the teachers Union stole in the Covid bill. 1-2 year mandatory sentence for an Illegal possessed firearm.

Those are my suggestions. But I’ll be damned if I’m gonna continue to hear all this horseshit whining from the left who run the most dangerous, violence ridden shit holes in this country who refuse to prosecute daily gun crimes in their own city.

Sit the fuck down.

We just need to think a little harder... and pray a little harder. Amen - this is fucking classic

G1 I admire you - you're like an attack dog every time Chico posts you're on it.

But I don't entirely disagree with Chico for once on this. I agree - raising the age to own a semi-automatic rifle to 21 might help. If you're 18 and you want one - great, join the military. Let a military qualified weapons master determine if you are of sound mind and maturity - if you pass boot camp you can buy a semi-auto rifle outright. If not, gotta wait until you're 21. But don't fret - if your parents own one and want to take you to go get some range practice in or whatever they are more than welcome to do so. You just can't own one outright. But the goal is to stop teenagers having a miserable life experience from going out and buying an AR-15 almost immediately after they turn 18. It's not gonna solve every mass shooting - Vegas would've still happened amongst others - but it would prevent some of them. And aren't we at least in agreement some of these can be prevented?

I also agree with Chico on illegal gun possession - if you are caught possessing a stolen gun or a gun with the serial numbers filed off - that's grounds for a 6mo-1 year minimum sentence. No evidence to back me up on this but I feel like most of the people buying stolen guns or stealing them outright have bad intentions.

Defund the police - well it's only natural Chico latches on to a theory only a small segment of liberals are vehemently promoting and then acts like all of us wholeheartedly endorse it. I'm not against taking money out of the police budget if there was a legit better cause that money needs to go to. But just taking serious money out of the budget for no reason other than cops=bad - you gotta do better than that imo.

The one thing I'd really like to know is how much the illegal gun trade contributes to gun violence in high-crime areas. How many legal gun owners are getting their shit stolen and then sold somewhere else with the serial filed off? How many murder weapons - or even guns used in a shooting and recovered later - were stolen? How many were straw purchases? How many were bought legally? How many did a kid in Chicago drive half an hour into Indiana to buy? Yes mass shootings don't negate all of the other gun violence that happens in America - but how are guns so easily accessible in the black market or via loophole?

Dan Crenshaw didn't even wait a week - he said red flag laws are off the table because there should already be laws on the books that hold criminals accountable (if they are violating the law in some manner before they go off and kill a bunch of people). I guess if you're an insane kid who said a bunch of terrible shit online - but never got criminally charged for any of it - well you can still legally buy a gun the day of your 18th birthday and then murder a bunch of kids. There's your loophole, young psychopaths who have no criminal record.