(All about that) D thread

Schneed10 · 12-07-2017, 02:08 PM

We made strides this year in defensive talent. Allen and Ioannidis are the first effective interior pass rushers we've had in years. Literally years and years.

Unfortunately our free agent acquisitions on the line were disappointing - McGee and McClain didn't do enough for us. So where we thought we had depth, we really didn't have enough when Ioannidis and Allen got hurt. Lanier is promising and had some moments as a rusher, but he's not consistent enough yet and is going to get moved in the run game.

Our talent at MLB is still just flat out insufficient, save for Zach Brown. Compton shouldn't be on an NFL roster, and Mason Foster is OK. If you're a very good team, then OK gets you in the rotation as a depth guy. I want Very Good as my starters.

We need a lot more talent, plain and simple.

FrenchSkin · 12-08-2017, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

We made strides this year in defensive talent. Allen and Ioannidis are the first effective interior pass rushers we've had in years. Literally years and years.

Unfortunately our free agent acquisitions on the line were disappointing - McGee and McClain didn't do enough for us. So where we thought we had depth, we really didn't have enough when Ioannidis and Allen got hurt. Lanier is promising and had some moments as a rusher, but he's not consistent enough yet and is going to get moved in the run game.

Our talent at MLB is still just flat out insufficient, save for Zach Brown. Compton shouldn't be on an NFL roster, and Mason Foster is OK. If you're a very good team, then OK gets you in the rotation as a depth guy. I want Very Good as my starters.

We need a lot more talent, plain and simple.

To me Mason Foster is better than OK, he was having a great year next to Brown before dislocating his shoulder (and playing through it for a few games).
I agree we need more quality depth though.

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Schneed10 · 12-07-2017, 02:11 PM

All that said I'm very excited to see what Montae does in year 2. Players usually make a big jump year 1 to year 2, and there's a lot of reason to believe that will make him a very, very good player.

See if he can stay healthy enough.

KI Skins Fan · 12-08-2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

All that said I'm very excited to see what Montae does in year 2. Players usually make a big jump year 1 to year 2, and there's a lot of reason to believe that will make him a very, very good player.

See if he can stay healthy enough.

I think Fabian Moreau may arrive next season, as well. We have a wealth of good young talent in the DB. That's good to see.

metalskins · 12-08-2017, 10:03 AM

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I think Fabian Moreau may arrive next season, as well. We have a wealth of good young talent in the DB. That's good to see.

I'm high on the kid! Great special teams player! I think he might be a future star!

FrenchSkin · 12-08-2017, 08:16 PM

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I think Fabian Moreau may arrive next season, as well. We have a wealth of good young talent in the DB. That's good to see.

Yeah DB is the area we have the most quality depth IMO.
Have to think they're well coached. And Swearinger seems to have a very positive impact on the whole secondary.

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Chico23231 · 12-08-2017, 08:50 AM

We need more talent up the middle. DT and ILB...If Ryan Anderson is better at an ILB/MLB position, move him there.

in regards to pass rush...Kerrigan Murphy and Ioannidis are all extremely solid/not spectacular. I think JG has been better as the year has worn on...I would be in favor of bringing him back. Preston Smith...inconsistent, seems like a rotational guy. My feeling is this is a squad that is overall above average, you can win with.

We cant go another year with McClain or Hood at NT/DT. This is unacceptable and hurts the entire defense.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-09-2017, 05:37 PM

I do like the image of Johnathan Allen and Matt Ionnadis next to each other in a 4-3 set, but I think we will end up as a quote unquote 3-4 base team. I want to see Ryan Anderson as an ILB, not an outside one

Chico23231 · 12-09-2017, 06:20 PM

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I do like the image of Johnathan Allen and Matt Ionnadis next to each other in a 4-3 set, but I think we will end up as a quote unquote 3-4 base team. I want to see Ryan Anderson as an ILB, not an outside one

Also both of our free agent Dlineman disappointments McClain and McGee both came from a 4-3 alignment. Maybe their play improves as well?

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-09-2017, 06:32 PM

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Also both of our free agent Dlineman disappointments McClain and McGee both came from a 4-3 alignment. Maybe their play improves as well?

I honestly think they both just suck. No idea what they saw in those two

Chico23231 · 12-09-2017, 06:45 PM

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I honestly think they both just suck. No idea what they saw in those two

Well when I saw we gave 25 million to McGee...someone Id never heard of...I was pretty pissed. Maybe he can pick it up.

Meanwhile, calais campbell is probably gonna be defensive player of the year.

Meks · 12-09-2017, 07:59 PM

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Well when I saw we gave 25 million to McGee...someone Id never heard of...I was pretty pissed. Maybe he can pick it up.

Meanwhile, calais campbell is probably gonna be defensive player of the year.

For similar money? Ugh.

Ivar the Boneless · 12-11-2017, 01:41 AM

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I honestly think they both just suck. No idea what they saw in those two

They needed bodies that came cheap. Reading their career stats when they were first signed, I was like just sign an UFA or two. Thing is this roster is so deficient due to years of mismanagement and botched draft choices, that it will take an entire new regime to right the ship, and it won't happen overnight. Snyder is a dumbass!!!!!!!!

DYoungJelly · 12-10-2017, 02:02 AM

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I do like the image of Johnathan Allen and Matt Ionnadis next to each other in a 4-3 set, but I think we will end up as a quote unquote 3-4 base team. I want to see Ryan Anderson as an ILB, not an outside one

Anderson would be a much better fit at ilb, he can't rush at all against an NFL tackle.

FrenchSkin · 12-10-2017, 04:54 AM

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Anderson would be a much better fit at ilb, he can't rush at all against an NFL tackle.

Well I guess technically he would still be called an outside LB in a 4-3, you wouldn't line him up as your Mike. But it's a completely different position than an OLB in a 3-4.

To me that's also an advantage of the 4-3: you have 3 LBs behind the line of scrimmage.

In the 3-4 we only have 2.
And when we say we already play most of our snaps in a 4-3, it's false: we play a lot of snaps in a 4-2/nickel. Even when we have 4 guys in a 3 points stand, we only have 2 LBs behind that.

Having, for say, Zach Brown (WLB), Mason Foster (MLB) and Ryan Anderson (SLB) behind Galette(/Smith), Ioannidis, Allen and Kerrigan would make us a lot stronger against the run, wouldn't it ?

12-07-2017, 02:08 PM	#1
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: (All about that) D thread We made strides this year in defensive talent. Allen and Ioannidis are the first effective interior pass rushers we've had in years. Literally years and years. Unfortunately our free agent acquisitions on the line were disappointing - McGee and McClain didn't do enough for us. So where we thought we had depth, we really didn't have enough when Ioannidis and Allen got hurt. Lanier is promising and had some moments as a rusher, but he's not consistent enough yet and is going to get moved in the run game. Our talent at MLB is still just flat out insufficient, save for Zach Brown. Compton shouldn't be on an NFL roster, and Mason Foster is OK. If you're a very good team, then OK gets you in the rotation as a depth guy. I want Very Good as my starters. We need a lot more talent, plain and simple. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: (All about that) D thread All that said I'm very excited to see what Montae does in year 2. Players usually make a big jump year 1 to year 2, and there's a lot of reason to believe that will make him a very, very good player. See if he can stay healthy enough. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,037	Re: (All about that) D thread We need more talent up the middle. DT and ILB...If Ryan Anderson is better at an ILB/MLB position, move him there. in regards to pass rush...Kerrigan Murphy and Ioannidis are all extremely solid/not spectacular. I think JG has been better as the year has worn on...I would be in favor of bringing him back. Preston Smith...inconsistent, seems like a rotational guy. My feeling is this is a squad that is overall above average, you can win with. We cant go another year with McClain or Hood at NT/DT. This is unacceptable and hurts the entire defense. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

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