Ukraine mega thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Anyone who thinks Trump isn't beholden to Putin at this point is absolutely mental. To be clear, the President of the United States just allowed a genocidal warmongering dictator who clearly violated agreements and the UN Charter to blatantly lie and be treated better than the President of the country that who was invaded by that dictator.
I am ashamed of this administration and the moron in charge of it.

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[nonniey]

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2...gly-plausible/

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Anyone who thinks Trump isn't beholden to Putin at this point is absolutely mental. To be clear, the President of the United States just allowed a genocidal warmongering dictator who clearly violated agreements and the UN Charter to blatantly lie and be treated better than the President of the country that who was invaded by that dictator.
I am ashamed of this administration and the moron in charge of it.

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"......What is Trump doing to stop Putin’s war? Nothing, it seems. But why? Any display of substantial US military assistance for Ukraine could make further prosecution of Putin’s invasion futile. It would not involve American boots on the ground in Ukraine. It would not risk nuclear warfare. If Putin sensed that the US was serious in preventing a win for Russia in Ukraine, a ceasefire followed by a peace conference would ensue.

But Trump won’t even countenance further sanctions against Russia. He astonished his so-called allies by calling for Russia’s readmission to the G7 summits. He regularly suggests that Ukraine somehow started the war with Russia. He called President Zelenskiy a dictator and insulted him grossly at an ambush in the Oval Office – the political pigsty where idiotic parodies of international diplomacy are staged. He has hardly more than murmured against the Russian missile onslaught on Ukrainian cities.

What is his real strategy? Is it to collapse the Ukrainian state by weakening its resistance to Russia or to re-establish Ukraine as a Russian satellite? Is it to divide the mineral and oil assets of Ukraine with Russia, in line with the “deal” he imposed on Zelenskiy in a Corleone-style offer he couldn’t refuse? Is the “dictator” Zelenskiy now to be the object of US-backed regime change as part of a capitulation to Russia?

Or is there some different hidden policy agenda in the White House? I used to be sceptical about claims that Putin had access to kompromat on Trump that explained his grovelling relationship with the Kremlin. But if such kompromat is not the explanation, it is hard to see why the White House is behaving as it does towards Ukraine...."

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2...gly-plausible/

[CRedskinsRule]

Apparently Trump interrupted the meeting with European Heads of State to call Putin. I was going to type Unbelievable, but sadly it is completely believable and outrageous.

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[Chico23231]

I thought Trump, European Leaders and Zelenskiy looked strong yesterday. Good first step

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I thought Trump, European Leaders and Zelenskiy looked strong yesterday. Good first step

First step? JHC!

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I thought Trump, European Leaders and Zelenskiy looked strong yesterday. Good first step

None of it consequential until Russia actually stops fighting. Can't see it. It's antithetical to everything Putin has said: "the collapse of the USSR was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of our time."

He's not stopping at Ukraine, regardless of what he said in Alaska.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

None of it consequential until Russia actually stops fighting. Can't see it. It's antithetical to everything Putin has said: "the collapse of the USSR was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of our time."



He's not stopping at Ukraine, regardless of what he said in Alaska.

Exactly. The Russian foreign minister Lavrov showed up in Alaska wearing a CCCP (USSR) shirt. What more needs to be said.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I thought Trump, European Leaders and Zelenskiy looked strong yesterday. Good first step

So much for your "First Step"!

HuffPost
Adult Supervision From Europe Gone, Trump Reverts To Blaming Ukraine For Getting Invaded




https://news.yahoo.com/news/articles...210452494.html


WASHINGTON — Free from the supervision of European leaders, President Donald Trump on Tuesday reverted to form, blaming Ukraine for getting invaded by Russia and making dictator Vladimir Putin’s arguments on his behalf.

“Russia is a powerful military nation. You know, whether people like it or not, it’s a powerful nation. It’s a much bigger nation,” Trump said in a 25-minute, phoned-in appearance on Fox News’ morning show. “You don’t do that. You don’t take ― you don’t take on a nation that’s 10 times your size.”