Colts Officially Release Peyton Manning (QB Thread #11)

[skinsfaninok]

Here's a new scenario..

Manning and Wayne/Garcon?

Or RG3 and Vjax?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Here's a new scenario..

Manning and Wayne/Garcon?

Or RG3 and Vjax?

If PM signs here Wayne and Garçon are almost locks to also come over, Skins become instant contenders in the East.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If PM signs here Wayne and Garçon are almost locks to also come over, Skins become instant contenders in the East.

I agree

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

^ RG3 and VJax if those are the options.

[NM Redskin]

Who is this "key" Redskin executive that has a connection to Manning?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

Who is this "key" Redskin executive that has a connection to Manning?

Take a guess

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Take a guess

Tony Wylie?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mooby

Tony Wylie?

Good guess...no

[iRepDMV]

Robert Griffin III and Vincent Jackson ftw!

[ethat001]

Wonder if the Rams would want to nail down a trade before the value goes down when one of the teams goes out of the race? Would be nice to finalize this, and would love RG3 instead of Peyton due to long-term potential.

If Peyton / Wayne / Garcon come, we'd have the running game and defense to compete to win it all. We could draft a QB in the next 2-3 years as a project to hold the clipboard, Tannehill comes to mind. Still need to firm up the RT position.

Btw, wouldn't Peyton want to go to a team that doesn't compete with his brother?

[CrackBack]

I'm shocked at the responses about Shanny and Peyton have a problem with the offense. Signing Peyton Manning is as much for his genius offensive mind as it is for his ability. He would teach Kyle a thing or two and Mike is smart enough to let him do it. If the move is made for Manning, I am not worried at all that Mike, Kyle and Peyton wont have a monster offense put together. Add a big WR in FA along with a good, emerging running game and two strong TEs and the offense is automatically one of the best in the east.

Now, I love RGIII and think that for a long term solution, I would rather have him. He could be amazing for years to come -- legitimizing the Skins for more than just 2-3 years.


Having to talk about who you would rather have, Peyton Manning or RGIII, is pretty much the best problem we have ever had in an off-season. I will cry if we don't end up with one of them.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by CrackBack

I'm shocked at the responses about Shanny and Peyton have a problem with the offense. Signing Peyton Manning is as much for his genius offensive mind as it is for his ability. He would teach Kyle a thing or two and Mike is smart enough to let him do it. If the move is made for Manning, I am not worried at all that Mike, Kyle and Peyton wont have a monster offense put together. Add a big WR in FA along with a good, emerging running game and two strong TEs and the offense is automatically one of the best in the east.

Now, I love RGIII and think that for a long term solution, I would rather have him. He could be amazing for years to come -- legitimizing the Skins for more than just 2-3 years.


Having to talk about who you would rather have, Peyton Manning or RGIII, is pretty much the best problem we have ever had in an off-season. I will cry if we don't end up with one of them.

Well said.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by CrackBack

I'm shocked at the responses about Shanny and Peyton have a problem with the offense. Signing Peyton Manning is as much for his genius offensive mind as it is for his ability. He would teach Kyle a thing or two and Mike is smart enough to let him do it. If the move is made for Manning, I am not worried at all that Mike, Kyle and Peyton wont have a monster offense put together. Add a big WR in FA along with a good, emerging running game and two strong TEs and the offense is automatically one of the best in the east.

Now, I love RGIII and think that for a long term solution, I would rather have him. He could be amazing for years to come -- legitimizing the Skins for more than just 2-3 years.


Having to talk about who you would rather have, Peyton Manning or RGIII, is pretty much the best problem we have ever had in an off-season. I will cry if we don't end up with one of them.

I agree that singing Manning would be partly because of he is basically a offensive coordinator on the field. I dont like Kyle at all, so the idea of Peyton taking over the offense, for both the physical and mental aspect, sounds good to me.

I think Manning picks the team he goes based off of the following order:

1) He retains as much or even more control of the offense as he did in recent years in Indy, perhaps additional say in personal as well.
2) Playoff caliber team in terms of talent
3) Team with a existing WCO and/or who predominantly uses zone blocking. His time is short, he doesnt want to waste it by waiting for an entire offense to learn a completely different scheme.
4) Willingness to sign his friends. Wayne, Garson, Saturday. Maybe a coach too?
5) Money. I think the amount he gets will be pretty close regardless of team so im not sure this really matters. Maybe he wants a lot of guarantee bucks.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I agree that singing Manning would be partly because of he is basically a offensive coordinator on the field. I dont like Kyle at all, so the idea of Peyton taking over the offense, for both the physical and mental aspect, sounds good to me.

I think Manning picks the team he goes based off of the following order:

1) He retains as much or even more control of the offense as he did in recent years in Indy, perhaps additional say in personal as well.
2) Playoff caliber team in terms of talent
3) Team with a existing WCO and/or who predominantly uses zone blocking. His time is short, he doesnt want to waste it by waiting for an entire offense to learn a completely different scheme.
4) Willingness to sign his friends. Wayne, Garson, Saturday. Maybe a coach too?
5) Money. I think the amount he gets will be pretty close regardless of team so im not sure this really matters. Maybe he wants a lot of guarantee bucks.

1-check. reported MS would love for a QB like that again. (Elway)
2-check. MS reported the Skins were one last year.
3-check. we are a WCO with zone blocking.
4-check. we got the CAP space and need those positions. All.
4A- coach? whom? I thought all his immediate coaches have signed elswhere?
5-your probably correct but he did say he'd take a contract that was incentive based. But with demand from several teams will prbably bring about a nice paycheck with guarentee's.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

1-check. reported MS would love for a QB like that again. (Elway)
2-check. MS reported the Skins were one last year.
3-check. we are a WCO with zone blocking.
4-check. we got the CAP space and need those positions. All.
4A- coach? whom? I thought all his immediate coaches have signed elswhere?
5-your probably correct but he did say he'd take a contract that was incentive based. But with demand from several teams will prbably bring about a nice paycheck with guarentee's.

When i was typing those things out i was thinking to myself that the Redskins fit the bill on all of them.

Number 1 is debatable though, as both Shanahans seem to be micro managing control freaks and McNabb was forced to do some things he didnt want to. When people debate Manning vs Brady the biggest argument for Manning is his always his "intangibles" or coach on the field stuff. If he isnt giving the absolute freedom to do things exactly how he wants to hes just a 36 year old QB on a new team.

I dont think anyone would be stupid enough to try to get Manning to do things any differently then he has in the past. Thats part of why i like the idea of Manning; Kyle would instantly become Peyton's assistant.

I have no idea who would be the coach if any. But as good as Manning is im pretty sure he has had a really good support system around him, probably one he helped develop. It may have been needed less in the later years but you got to get everyone in sync and on the same page.

When he goes to another team and has to teach everyone how to do things his way, build chemistry w the offense, recover and go through growing pains after being out a year i think he will be smart enough to bring over a few authority figures to implement his system his way. Not sure if anyone would get replaced, maybe personal guys or assistant type guys. Maybe just FA vet camp bodies.