2024 Early Bird Draft Thread

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The only trade I'm really on the fence about is Montez Sweat. He showed in Chicago that he can be a force, And I think Quinn's defense could really have used him. Young was definitely worth trading and Howell was clearly a good value for the trade.

bottomline, I don't think Chicago's pick can make up for Sweat's value. I hope this front office proves me wrong.

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It makes up for it when you consider the cost of the contract and how many of the guys we have been able to sign using that cap, and more we will be able to sign over the next 3 years

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

It makes up for it when you consider the cost of the contract and how many of the guys we have been able to sign using that cap, and more we will be able to sign over the next 3 years

Exactly. This FO and coaching staff is able to get their players.
Not the players somebody else wanted. What I see so far is they are picking up Dan Quinn’s and his staff’s type of player.
Plus they added veteran leaders like Bobby Wagner to help teach Dan Quinn’s system to the many young guys coming in from the draft.
That is so important.

[skinsfaninok]

You can argue that 1-4 are borderline bust.

TLaw hasn’t lived up to his hype at all.

I’d probably say 7 of these 32 picks are legit really good players

The draft is a crap shoot.


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[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You can argue that 1-4 are borderline bust.

TLaw hasn’t lived up to his hype at all.

I’d probably say 7 of these 32 picks are legit really good players

The draft is a crap shoot.


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The relevance of the current status of the first three picks from this past draft shines a bright light on our situation in this draft. Lawrence was considered by many to be a future superstar and he was drafted first. To date, he hasn't developed as expected. The other two who were drafted second and third have careers that are in disarray now and they are no longer with the teams that drafted them.

So yes, take your best shot with the No. 2 pick and hope to get your Franchise QB. Do not risk trading away the farm to move up to No. 1 only to be disappointed.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

The relevance of the current status of the first three picks from this past draft shines a bright light on our situation in this draft. Lawrence was considered by many to be a future superstar and he was drafted first. To date, he hasn't developed as expected. The other two who were drafted second and third have careers that are in disarray now and they are no longer with the teams that drafted them.

So yes, take your best shot with the No. 2 pick and hope to get your Franchise QB. Do not risk trading away the farm to move up to No. 1 only to be disappointed.

To be fair the (supposedly) #2 and #3 QBs in this years draft have waaay more playing experience at big programs than those guys did.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

To be fair the (supposedly) #2 and #3 QBs in this years draft have waaay more playing experience at big programs than those guys did.

Lawrence started at Clemson 4 games into his freshman year.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lawrence started at Clemson 4 games into his freshman year.

Yes , I was referring more to Wilson and Lance at #2 and #3. Obviously Lawrence had a lot of games at a major school, Fields went to Ohio state, but had limited starting to 1 year I think, unless I miss count when Haskins was drafted, and Mac Jones went to Alabama but only started one year.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

To be fair the (supposedly) #2 and #3 QBs in this years draft have waaay more playing experience at big programs than those guys did.

I think it is a fair comparison because many QB's in many drafts who were taken high have turned out to be busts or at least haven't reached their perceived potential. Numerous "can't miss" prospects have missed and I don't think anyone has discovered the secret formula for drafting a Franchise QB.

Still, GM's must try while knowing they may never succeed in drafting one no matter how thoroughly they evaluate QB prospects. That's because some GM's do win the Franchise QB lottery. But having a great QB won't win you a Super Bowl unless you build a good team around him.

So I think the best way for us to go in this draft is to take our best shot at drafting a great QB with the second pick in the draft and use the remaining picks to build the rest of the team.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

You can argue that 1-4 are borderline bust.

TLaw hasn’t lived up to his hype at all.

I’d probably say 7 of these 32 picks are legit really good players

The draft is a crap shoot.


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There are six guys in the first column alone who are really good. Surtain has had injury issues but when he is there he is good. Pitts will have a breakout year with Cousins. There are probably 15-16 legit players from that round. Couple on shit teams or with injury issues but….

Yes it is a crap shoot to an extent but not completely.

[Meks]

There's definitely a bunch of busts on there

[skinsfan69]

TL is not a bust at all. A bust is RG3, Heath Shuler, Lance and Zach Wilson. He's a starting QB in the league but he just isn't one of the best. I never thought he was going to be great based off of in college he wasn't a pinpoint passer like Burrow became. Great athlete, and like I said, he is a starter but probably mid tier. He is tough as nails, I like TL, you can win w/ him.

I think Daniels will probably be similar to TL. I don't think he's going to be an elite starter, but perhaps a good to really good.

I still stand by Michael Penix. He just has that "IT" factor when the ball comes off his huge hands. He needs a line. You gotta give him some deep threats.. I love the maturity, mental toughness and the elite arm. The Vikings should draft him.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

TL is not a bust at all. A bust is RG3, Heath Shuler, Lance and Zach Wilson. He's a starting QB in the league but he just isn't one of the best. I never thought he was going to be great based off of in college he wasn't a pinpoint passer like Burrow became. Great athlete, and like I said, he is a starter but probably mid tier. He is tough as nails, I like TL, you can win w/ him.

I think Daniels will probably be similar to TL. I don't think he's going to be an elite starter, but perhaps a good to really good.

I still stand by Michael Penix. He just has that "IT" factor when the ball comes off his huge hands. He needs a line. You gotta give him some deep threats.. I love the maturity, mental toughness and the elite arm. The Vikings should draft him.

And Lawrence has them 8-3 and the #1 seed before he got hurt.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

TL is not a bust at all. A bust is RG3, Heath Shuler, Lance and Zach Wilson. He's a starting QB in the league but he just isn't one of the best. I never thought he was going to be great based off of in college he wasn't a pinpoint passer like Burrow became. Great athlete, and like I said, he is a starter but probably mid tier. He is tough as nails, I like TL, you can win w/ him.

I think Daniels will probably be similar to TL. I don't think he's going to be an elite starter, but perhaps a good to really good.

I still stand by Michael Penix. He just has that "IT" factor when the ball comes off his huge hands. He needs a line. You gotta give him some deep threats.. I love the maturity, mental toughness and the elite arm. The Vikings should draft him.

i was all in on Penix UNTIL I watched him on the Big stage in there final game last year .. He was not good !

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

i was all in on Penix UNTIL I watched him on the Big stage in there final game last year .. He was not good !

So you are basing an opinion off of one game? What about the game before against Texas? Do you remember when Lawrence played his last college game? He was totally outplayed by Burrow, had a bad game and was still the #1 overall first pick.

Every single QB will have bad games. Jayden Daniels had and is going to have some really bad games.

[PorkSkins]

I prefer trading down to possibly in #5-7 range in the draft. I'm not sold on Daniels or Maye. I'd rather have Spencer Rattler (who I have a hunch will be a steal who'll be an early third round pick) than those two.

I'm sure we can find a trade partner within the top 7 picks and load up in '24 and '25 draft picks, respectively.