My evaluation of Shanahan starts now

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Interview or "interview" in the Bill Cowher sense?

I seem to remember that insiders knew Shanahan would be the coach here before Zorn was fired.

That's exactly right. Ceratto and Snyder met with SHanahan in Denver during the 2009 season after a close, yet embarrassing loss to the Detroit Lions. Shanahan told Snyder that even if he did come in, there was nothing he could do because it was in season. It was terrible how the undermined Zorn like that.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

That's exactly right. Ceratto and Snyder met with SHanahan in Denver during the 2009 season after a close, yet embarrassing loss to the Detroit Lions. Shanahan told Snyder that even if he did come in, there was nothing he could do because it was in season. It was terrible how the undermined Zorn like that.

Yup.

Washington Post, by Mike Wise: How Daniel Snyder found his man in Mike Shanahan

On a Sunday evening nearly two years ago, Daniel Snyder hit his nadir with the Washington Redskins. Trudging down the stairwell of one of his private planes in the hangar of the Dulles Jet Center, burgundy-and-gold striped necktie askew, he mouthed an expletive passengers behind him could clearly hear. In that moment, hours after the Redskins had lost to the lowly Lions — the worst team in pro football — in Detroit, Snyder resembled less of an NFL owner than an exasperated day trader.

“He was as stressed out and lost as I’d ever seen him,” said an associate of Snyder, who recounted the scene.” It was the bottom for all of us, but it was mostly the bottom for him.”

On the way to missing the playoffs for the eighth time in his 11 seasons as Redskins owner, Snyder retreated to the pilot’s lounge inside the hangar with two of his closest advisers at the time, Dave Donovan, the team’s chief operating officer, and Karl Swanson, Snyder’s senior vice president of public relations. Vinny Cerrato, the executive vice president of personnel and Snyder’s right-hand man, joined them after he had taken the team plane home with the players and their beleaguered coach, Jim Zorn.

(read more at link above)

[JoeRedskin]

The roster he inherited was not "worst ever" talented, it had talent. It had no depth and was aging. I agree that Shanny thought he could win with the talent on hand - hence, McNabb.

I think, however, Shanny also said what surprised him was the lack of depth.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

The roster he inherited was not "worst ever" talented, it had talent. It had no depth and was aging. I agree that Shanny thought he could win with the talent on hand - hence, McNabb.

I think, however, Shanny also said what surprised him was the lack of depth.

pushaw -- Depth is overrated.







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[53Fan]

It was also the oldest roster in the NFL and they were coming off a 4-12 season...just saying.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Once Mike Shanahan retires who becomes the head coach, Haslett or Kyle Shanahan?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Once Mike Shanahan retires who becomes the head coach, Haslett or Kyle Shanahan?

Kyle, of course. That is if Shanny retires willingly. If he is let go, Id have to think that Kyle would have to pack his bags as well, being so intimately involved with the offense, it would basically be the franchise taking off one pair of dirty socks only to put another dirty pair of socks back on.

Id look for us to sign another high profile college coach if the Shanahan plan doesnt pan out, man.........

But I have all faith that it will.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 44 goes 50 gut

That's exactly my point, if he was good enough to start then someone... like AZ would have signed him this off season, or they would trade for him now once realizing their mistake.

Prima facia: the league considers him a backup QB.

You can only put so much money into one position. AZ hamstrung themselves when they signed Kolb. No team/FO would bring in another mid level starter(which is how I describe Campbell) just one year after doing the deal AZ did.

Don't see it as prima facia anything.

[HailGreen28]

I think the term "worst roster ever" is being used as a strawman at this point, to gloss over how bad the roster was after 2009. That practically nobody cut from that roster has made it anywhere else really does speak volumes. Some folks like Tryon had flashes in the pan with other teams, before being dumped by said team. Landry isn't going to get healthier with the Jets than he was with us. The showings of the 2009 roster on other teams really seems pathetic to me.

The 2009 roster wasn't the worst ever. But it was terrible. The lineup was old and not built for any future when Gibbs left in 2007, and Cerrato did practically nothing to rebuild it. Our 2008 draft is Fred Davis who only had a great half season in 2009 and a drug suspension since. And a lot of draft/FA mistakes like Devin Thomas and Jason Taylor. Our 2009 draft/FA is only Orakpo, and more mistakes like Kevin Barnes and Albert Haynesworth. The old OL retired, and Vinny neglected to reload with any quality picks or good FA signings.

So that was the status of the team when Shanny took over. An old "win now" Gibbs team left to wither on the vine for two full seasons. We can fault Shanny for not believing in "rebuilding" by cleaning house. But the 2009 roster was very bad.