Washington Free Agents Signings

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mredskins

at least we didn't pay chase young $51M

That was the worst signing in FA.. WTF is N.O Doing???

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

That was the worst signing in FA.. WTF is N.O Doing???

The Saints need an intervention. Their affinity for shopping is out of control, and it is saddling poor New Orleans fans year after year after year with a team that might win nine games but has next to no shot at winning the Super Bowl. And every time the Saints make another ill-advised signing -- at this point, they are pretty much all ill-advised -- they kick the mediocrity-at-best can down the road once again.

As of this writing, before Young's deal hits the books, the Saints are $11 million over the 2025 cap -- and only $48 million under the 2026 cap. And that was before this deal, which presumably will be light in 2025 (and therefore more expensive in 2026 and beyond).

It doesn't really matter what you think of Young. I think he's not bad! He isn't even 26 yet! Once it became clear he was never going to be the player he was promised to be when he was the No. 2 pick in the 2020 draft, he settled into a role that will be useful for seasons to come. He isn't a star but can rush the passer a little, and that's worth something.

But again, it doesn't matter in this situation. Since the Saints constantly push themselves so close to the limit of what they can spend, they end up facing brutal choices like they had this offseason: Do they spend millions more on someone such as quarterback Derek Carr to make it easier for them to be cap compliant now (but harder later)?

This transaction is another example of that. As my colleague Katherine Terrell points out, the Saints would have had $9 million in dead cap had Young's contract voided on Wednesday. Instead, they will kick that can down the road too. Time and again, the Saints fail to take the obvious team-building action: Tear it down, trade away their veterans, stop spending. Then regroup, with assets, to make a real run at it. The Saints ought to have an ability to think beyond the season directly in front of them. And yet, they're here again.

Which brings us back to Young. As compared to the rest of the league, $17 million is not an expensive deal for an edge rusher of Young's caliber (and that's the only thing saving this grade from being an F). But when compared to Monday's edge rusher transactions, it's a bit expensive. Josh Sweat agreed to a contract of only $19 million per year, while Khalil Mack's deal netted $18 million and Haason Reddick's deal was for $14 million. But perhaps the edge market corrects next year and the Saints can flip Young's contract for a profit.

But there should be no lauding what the Saints did here, because they are doing what they always do -- spending future money when they shouldn't.

[MTK]

For some perspective read through last year’s free agency thread, some real gems in there

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

For some perspective read through last year’s free agency thread, some real gems in there

you should pin it


we are all arm chair GMs this time of year

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

For some perspective read through last year’s free agency thread, some real gems in there

Lol. Did this last night. Was thinking the exact same thing. Me and you guilty too. We both referred to ertz as a role player. Im not going to pass judgement this year in March. Especially not on a perennial pro bowler.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lol. Did this last night. Was thinking the exact same thing. Me and you guilty too. We both referred to ertz as a role player. Im not going to pass judgement this year in March. Especially not on a perennial pro bowler.

Oh I was totally off on Ertz. He had more in the tank than most of us thought.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

Oh I was totally off on Ertz. He had more in the tank than most of us thought.

You only called him a role player. I called him a washed up bum over, and over again. Ha. Made me look like a fool and I love it.

Seriously though as i was reading through the comments about this years additions and subtractions I decided to look back. People absolutely bashing someone last offseason and begging them to be resigned this offseason. Goes to show you never can tell.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by MTK

Oh I was totally off on Ertz. He had more in the tank than most of us thought.

He was lethal over the middle. He always seemed to get open and make big plays. He had a better year than expected. Glad he's returning.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

Oh I was totally off on Ertz. He had more in the tank than most of us thought.

Count me in there too. He proved a lot of us wrong. However, just playing the law of averages, going back to the well w/ old guys like Ertz and Wagner probably will not work as well as it did last year. Really want to see more of Sinott and perhaps a MLB that is out first or 2rd rounder.

[mredskins]

Allen got paid

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...deal-per-agent

[CRedskinsRule]

I like Tunsil, he makes the whole line better. Putting Coleman and Tunsil on the left side with Cosmi and Wylie on the right will give JD5 that extra time to destroy the other team's scheme.

That said, our defense is taking hit after hxt and it wasn't good enough for that.

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I like Tunsil, he makes the whole line better. Putting Coleman and Tunsil on the left side with Cosmi and Wylie on the right will give JD5 that extra time to destroy the other team's scheme.

That said, our defense is taking hit after hxt and it wasn't good enough for that.

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100% agree. I hope they slide Coleman inside to Alegretti position. Down the stretch I thought inside, up the middle pressure was more of a problem than even the mediocre play of Wylie at tackle

I know folks..including myself…would welcome a replacement for Wylie, but Coleman best position imo is inside left guard.

[Frost]

im ok with the Tunsil trade, however i do not understand the Javon Kinlaw signing.
Jonathan Allen would have cost us 16 mil vs Kinlaw who costs us 15 mil.. soo we're saving a mil for a player that's worse than Allen ?
I get it was time to move on from Allen but why the hell did we pay this below average dude so much?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Frost

im ok with the Tunsil trade, however i do not understand the Javon Kinlaw signing.
Jonathan Allen would have cost us 16 mil vs Kinlaw who costs us 15 mil.. soo we're saving a mil for a player that's worse than Allen ?
I get it was time to move on from Allen but why the hell did we pay this below average dude so much?

Looking at the guaranteed money handed out on day 1, Kinlaw near the top. I don’t understand it either. Seemed like a lot slotted for the position and him ranked among peers in the Dline.

Hope it works out, but there were other guys I woulda used that on DJ Reed, Joey Bosa, etc

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Frost

im ok with the Tunsil trade, however i do not understand the Javon Kinlaw signing.
Jonathan Allen would have cost us 16 mil vs Kinlaw who costs us 15 mil.. soo we're saving a mil for a player that's worse than Allen ?
I get it was time to move on from Allen but why the hell did we pay this below average dude so much?

I agree here, and the market just proved your point that Allen is better, because he is now getting paid 20m vs Kinlaw's 15m.

We also had Allen under contract, in my eyes it was an unforced error. The only logical explanation I see us if Allen is irreperably injured only known by our staff and Kinlaw has been hindered by both his 49ers and Jets defensive coaching staff, or by his knee injuries that are secretly now bionic.