QB or BPA for our #1 Draft Pick - 2020

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Forget about next year for one second .. if you were the head coach and needed one win the rest of year .. would you play Haskins or keenum?

Are you saying the coach wants a win? I think we would be more likely to get a win with Case then with Haskins

[rocnrik]

I’m just trying to figure are we really this bad or are we tanking.. I really thought firing Gruden was the answer .. I’m not sure now at all .. manusky would have made more sense to let go. I can’t believe this team has fallen this far with no end in sight .

[skinsfaninok]

65.0 Pass block grade which is solid for a guy who didn't even play much in 2 years

[skinsfaninok]

Junkies called DH "Byron Leftwich or Jason Campbell"

LOL How do they have a show still?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Junkies called DH "Byron Leftwich or Jason Campbell"



LOL How do they have a show still?

Garbage



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[BaltimoreSkins]

It is the worst show on a station of bad shows,

[Warthog]

I hope the 1-15 season forces Snyder to make a major change: Fire BRUCE or leave him as VP Prez but no GM duties. Then have hie a hard-charging, NFL-worthy HC who makes Snyder give him TOTAL CONTROL. I wonder if Snyder is desperate and/or smart enough to such a move. Until now he’s tried a wide range of HC, but insisted on having his lackey GM make personnel decisions. Can he give up control to bring in a PHD to change a 20 years of a total “amateur hour”.


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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I hope the 1-15 season forces Snyder to make a major change: Fire BRUCE or leave him as VP Prez but no GM duties. Then have hie a hard-charging, NFL-worthy HC who makes Snyder give him TOTAL CONTROL. I wonder if Snyder is desperate and/or smart enough to such a move. Until now he’s tried a wide range of HC, but insisted on having his lackey GM make personnel decisions. Can he give up control to bring in a PHD to change a 20 years of a total “amateur hour”.


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Yep, this ship has officially sunk. Its time to make changes everywhere.

[Randall Nestor]

I think that we need to see if we can trade Trent Williams and see what we get before we make a decision on what to do in the draft. Let's say for example we get a second round pick for Trent. Then we can take Young if we know that we can replace Trent with the second from the Trent deal. If we don't trade Trent then I would trade down if we get a great offer because one player is not going to help with all of the needs we have. I wouldn't trade very far though.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Trading down is so hard to plan for or be yay/nay for until the trade actually happens. Because if we get an RG3 type haul, trading down is the only choice. But if it's for like an additional 2nd, I'd be livid we didn't get Young or Thomas. Getting a stud is never bad.

[Warthog]

I’m not in favor of trading down UNLESS they are doing it to get Tua. We need elite talent in key positions. You get elite talent with a #2 pick.

Our defense has good and very good players but is horribly coached. Draft the BPA in Chase Young, dump Norman (CB) and Moreau (CB) AND get a very good DC and this defense could be in the top 10 -IN ONE YEAR.

Offense has many problems. If they decide Haskins is not the man OR will take far too long to mature, then trade down for more picks and then draft Tua. Dangerous strategy because of Tua’s injury. Trade down too far and we may not get TUA, who is falling to the second round.

Trade TW. Use the trade down pick in first round for the best OT. We need two with Trent gone and Moses let go. Use the SE one round for Tua. Use the other second or third from trading TW for another OL.

I’d say go for BPA ( Chase Young), then draft very heavily for OL players. Trade all of our dead weight FA - Norman, Richardson, Moses, TW, Kerrigan, Scherff.


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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I’m not in favor of trading down UNLESS they are doing it to get Tua. We need elite talent in key positions. You get elite talent with a #2 pick.

Our defense has good and very good players but is horribly coached. Draft the BPA in Chase Young, dump Norman (CB) and Moreau (CB) AND get a very good DC and this defense could be in the top 10 -IN ONE YEAR.

Offense has many problems. If they decide Haskins is not the man OR will take far too long to mature, then trade down for more picks and then draft Tua. Dangerous strategy because of Tua’s injury. Trade down too far and we may not get TUA, who is falling to the second round.

Trade TW. Use the trade down pick in first round for the best OT. We need two with Trent gone and Moses let go. Use the SE one round for Tua. Use the other second or third from trading TW for another OL.

I’d say go for BPA ( Chase Young), then draft very heavily for OL players. Trade all of our dead weight FA - Norman, Richardson, Moses, TW, Kerrigan, Scherff.


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Again, drafting a QB makes zero sense. Tua, Burrow or whoever isn't going to come in and make this shitty team any better.

Draft Chase Young and trade Kerrigan for a 4th or 5th

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Again, drafting a QB makes zero sense. Tua, Burrow or whoever isn't going to come in and make this shitty team any better.

Draft Chase Young and trade Kerrigan for a 4th or 5th

A bonafide stud franchise QB may be the only thing that can transcend the incompetence of this organization. You dont get many chances to pick from the cream of the crop QBs and if Burrow and/or Tua grade out high ... how can you pass up on that?

To take a Chase Young would be great but then you still need a FO that can build and hit on other pieces as well. We dont have a FO that can go 7/10 in personnel decisions. As we are seeing now, perhaps investing heavy in the front 4 doesnt allow you to carry a less invested secondary.

IDK .. i think a stub QB masks more problems than a stud pass rusher.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

A bonafide stud franchise QB may be the only thing that can transcend the incompetence of this organization. You dont get many chances to pick from the cream of the crop QBs and if Burrow and/or Tua grade out high ... how can you pass up on that?

To take a Chase Young would be great but then you still need a FO that can build and hit on other pieces as well. We dont have a FO that can go 7/10 in personnel decisions. As we are seeing now, perhaps investing heavy in the front 4 doesnt allow you to carry a less invested secondary.

IDK .. i think a stub QB masks more problems than a stud pass rusher.

Bingo. You can take Chase Young out of the game, or neutralize him. A great pass rusher doesn't impact the game like a QB can. I'd like to have Young, no doubt, but give me a potentially great QB that can turn it around. Look at what Lamar Jackson is doing? Put Flacco back on Baltimore and they're just an average team, maybe a Wild Card and done. Insert Jackson and they're a SB contender. Jackson is what RG3 was supposed to be for us.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Again, drafting a QB makes zero sense. Tua, Burrow or whoever isn't going to come in and make this shitty team any better.

Draft Chase Young and trade Kerrigan for a 4th or 5th

Two questions. Would you agree or disagree that we are in a similar situation as the Cardinals were last year? Second, has Murray helped the Cardinals become a competitive team? I would say yes to both and that is why it makes sense.

Burrow and Tua (more so Tua w/ me) I feel are two guys that could come in and make a team like ours competitive. Right now we are not competitive. But like I said, I'm hoping that Haskins is that guy, but he just has a real long way to go and may never be that guy.