Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

[skinsfan69]

Cousins is holding the Redskins hostage and I'm tired of it. His first priority is getting his freedom, not necessarily resigning w/ the Redskins. That bothers me. I want a guy that's "all in" as someone use to say. He's not.

He's not signing before March 6th so I'd try and trade him.The Browns have plenty of cap space to absorb 34 million and they have the 1st and 4th picks of the 1st round. They'd be my first call.

[skinsfan69]

As far as Gruden is concerned, I wish he'd just shut up. He needs a lesson in PR and clock management. You NEVER say negative things to the media about your players. Especially the QB. All he had to say is.." Kirk's been a good QB for us the last few years and if he stays we think he can take his game to the next level"...just something like that. He's such a dummy sometimes with his comments.

[rickmmrr]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

As far as Gruden is concerned, I wish he'd just shut up. He needs a lesson in PR and clock management. You NEVER say negative things to the media about your players. Especially the QB. All he had to say is.." Kirk's been a good QB for us the last few years and if he stays we think he can take his game to the next level"...just something like that. He's such a dummy sometimes with his comments.

I couldn't agree more. What the hell is he thinking? I have to think he know's something that we don't.

Gibbs would never do that. That's why he was able to work with the likes of John Riggins.

[irish]

Originally Posted by rickmmrr

I couldn't agree more. What the hell is he thinking? I have to think he know's something that we don't.

Gibbs would never do that. That's why he was able to work with the likes of John Riggins.

I know I'm in the minority but I find it refreshing to have a coach who will candidly answer question instead of just giving the usual BS non-answer answer. Its a cant win for these guys, when they answer honestly they are ripped for being honest and not giving a PC answer. When they give a BS non-answer they are ripped for giving what everyone knows is a non-answer. I like and appreciate that JG seems to be an open and honest coach.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by irish

I know I'm in the minority but I find it refreshing to have a coach who will candidly answer question instead of just giving the usual BS non-answer answer. Its a cant win for these guys, when they answer honestly they are ripped for being honest and not giving a PC answer. When they give a BS non-answer they are ripped for giving what everyone knows is a non-answer. I like and appreciate that JG seems to be an open and honest coach.

This. I believe this quality is appreciated my the players as well. No one gets a free pass and I would bet most of the players feel the same way as JG on this particular issue.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by irish

I know I'm in the minority but I find it refreshing to have a coach who will candidly answer question instead of just giving the usual BS non-answer answer. Its a cant win for these guys, when they answer honestly they are ripped for being honest and not giving a PC answer. When they give a BS non-answer they are ripped for giving what everyone knows is a non-answer. I like and appreciate that JG seems to be an open and honest coach.

Personally I don't rip him for being honest... I just think it tells he doesn't believe in Kirk that much, and it amazes me (in a bad way).

And I don't think that's reading too much out of it: I went back and listen to this segment again, in the same sentence he praises TW, Brandon Scherff and RK who are "Pro Bowl type guys" and are among the "few guys obviously that jump out".

So even when the team is 7-9, there are some players that you can say without any hesitation had a solid season? But not Kirk?

I'm sorry but that tells me he doesn't believe in him.

Because by that standard you could say that TW Scherff and RK "played well at times"... Even they had bad plays, RK disappeared in some games, Scherff wasn't ALWAYS that great in the run game, TW was awesome even when hurt but he did gave away some sacks...

I think these 3 are really good players but I think Kirk is right there with them.

He's part of why we're not 4-13, he's not part of why we're not 11-5, so to hear the HC sort of pin the 7-9 season on him is unfair and not a good sign if you hope Kirk's staying here.

(Didn't read the article but here's a video of the segment I'm talking about: Jay Gruden wasn't overly critical of Kirk Cousins, but he was honest | NBC Sports Washington )

[irish]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Personally I don't rip him for being honest... I just think it tells he doesn't believe in Kirk that much, and it amazes me (in a bad way).

And I don't think that's reading too much out of it: I went back and listen to this segment again, in the same sentence he praises TW, Brandon Scherff and RK who are "Pro Bowl type guys" and are among the "few guys obviously that jump out".

So even when the team is 7-9, there are some players that you can say without any hesitation had a solid season? But not Kirk?

I'm sorry but that tells me he doesn't believe in him.

Because by that standard you could say that TW Scherff and RK "played well at times"... Even they had bad plays, RK disappeared in some games, Scherff wasn't ALWAYS that great in the run game, TW was awesome even when hurt but he did gave away some sacks...

I think these 3 are really good players but I think Kirk is right there with them.

He's part of why we're not 4-13, he's not part of why we're not 11-5, so to hear the HC sort of pin the 7-9 season on him is unfair and not a good sign if you hope Kirk's staying here.

(Didn't read the article but here's a video of the segment I'm talking about: Jay Gruden wasn't overly critical of Kirk Cousins, but he was honest | NBC Sports Washington )

Kirk has been his starter for what 3 years and yet somehow JG doesn't believe in him because of a comment or two. I think people are looking waaay too deep into all of this. If JG didn't believe in Kirk then he wouldn't be the starting QB.

[rickmmrr]

Originally Posted by irish

I know I'm in the minority but I find it refreshing to have a coach who will candidly answer question instead of just giving the usual BS non-answer answer. Its a cant win for these guys, when they answer honestly they are ripped for being honest and not giving a PC answer. When they give a BS non-answer they are ripped for giving what everyone knows is a non-answer. I like and appreciate that JG seems to be an open and honest coach.

I see where you're coming from. But it's hard for me to believe that Gruden is not aware that the media is always in a "feeding frenzy" always looking for drama. Their like starving sharks they can never get enough. Have a little discretion. Take Kirk into your office and tell him exactly what's on your mind. But when you're talking to the media, know it's the media you're talking to and have some discretion.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by rickmmrr

I couldn't agree more. What the hell is he thinking? I have to think he know's something that we don't.

Gibbs would never do that. That's why he was able to work with the likes of John Riggins.

You're right and that's what I loved about Joe. He would never ever say anything that would create controversy.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I think the FA period begins in mid March. I guess they could talk but nothing would be official till then.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I think the FA period begins in mid March. I guess they could talk but nothing would be official till then.

They can resign their own players before then from what I understand.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by metalskins

They can resign their own players before then from what I understand.

Pretty sure this is correct as we just signed a 3 year deal with Dunbar. Really hope they get this figured out well before FA starts for all players.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by metalskins

They can resign their own players before then from what I understand.

Under the franchise tag I don’t think he can sign until the current season ends after the SB.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Under the franchise tag I don’t think he can sign until the current season ends after the SB.

Oh. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Hopefully they have the official offer on the table the 1st day they can offer it.

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[metalskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Under the franchise tag I don’t think he can sign until the current season ends after the SB.

Right. My thoughts were when the off-season officially began. Meaning, the 'skins wouldn't have to wait until March to resign Cousins.