Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

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[Bangee7]

Kirk and his agent better come back to earth after that collapse he had in the Giants game to give the playoffs away.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

Kirk and his agent better come back to earth after that collapse he had in the Giants game to give the playoffs away.

He's better than most QBs today. He's going to get paid well it's the life of the business

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

Kirk and his agent better come back to earth after that collapse he had in the Giants game to give the playoffs away.

He won't be here next year, i don't think there is any question in anyone's mind at redskins park.

I like Kirk and hate to see him go, he has been our best QB here in a long damn time, but i don't think they want him here, and he himself wants to be where he is wanted. Someone is going to pay him big money to be their franchise QB, i don't think it is going to be us.

The biggest question right now i think is who is going to replace him. I don't think its anyone on the roster right now, even though Cooley hinted a couple of weeks back that the thought process was that they felt they could get comparable results with a "guy like Colt" also, definatley not implying that it would BE Colt, just someone "like him". So maybe they go get a Colt-like guy / cheap QB in FA and build up the rest of the team. Not really sure.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

He won't be here next year, i don't think there is any question in anyone's mind at redskins park.

I like Kirk and hate to see him go, he has been our best QB here in a long damn time, but i don't think they want him here, and he himself wants to be where he is wanted. Someone is going to pay him big money to be their franchise QB, i don't think it is going to be us.

The biggest question right now i think is who is going to replace him. I don't think its anyone on the roster right now, even though Cooley hinted a couple of weeks back that the thought process was that they felt they could get comparable results with a "guy like Colt" also, definatley not implying that it would BE Colt, just someone "like him". So maybe they go get a Colt-like guy / cheap QB in FA and build up the rest of the team. Not really sure.

I saw 3 reports that said the skins will tag him if no deal is made. Scot runs the show and he isn't letting a QB like kirk walk away free. He'll be there again next year

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I saw 3 reports that said the skins will tag him if no deal is made. Scot runs the show and he isn't letting a QB like kirk walk away free. He'll be there again next year

How much would it be to franchise him next year?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

How much would it be to franchise him next year?

Probably 27 or so

[MTK]

My opinion on Kirk didn't change today. He's a guy you can build around and win with. Pay him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

My opinion on Kirk didn't change today. He's a guy you can build around and win with. Pay him.

I'm. Sold as well. He's a good QB

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

My opinion on Kirk didn't change today. He's a guy you can build around and win with. Pay him.

Mine definitely trended down. Expected more from him. A lot more. He was absolutely rattled and it showed. He was off all day.
The first inkling was when all 350 pounds of Snacks Harrison came right at him and somehow Kirk did not even notice. The INT was an all time kick in the nutz.
Though I do agree that you can win with him. He can certainly play we have all seen it.
My trust factor is not what it was but whatever.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by MTK

My opinion on Kirk didn't change today. He's a guy you can build around and win with. Pay him.

I don't understand this indifference. I've heard this more than once on the radio and in some articles before and after the game.

This is the situation that the Redskins were working so hard on- starting in OTAs during the summer. And they let all that hard work go to waste. So in the most important game to substantially prove to everyone that the Redskins are finally becoming contenders year in and year out, Cousins performs poorly. And this doesn't mean anything? Are all these people being obtuse or delusional?

This game meant a lot to everyone- involved with the Redskins and fans. But when we are looking at Cousins' performance in it, it doesn't matter?!? Gotta call BS when I see or hear it.

[InsanePianist21]

Went to 3 games this year

- vs. Dallas - He stunk up the joint missed on 3 deep balls that would've been TD's, definitely Kirk cost us that one.

- vs. Green Bay - Fun one to be at, but he looked mediocre until about 4 minutes to go

- vs. Carolina - He was Mark Sanchez.

Can't suffer through this anymore. Let him walk. He couldn't get us 2 TD's that would've sent us to Seattle. Pathetic. Our D really stepped up and Kirk couldn't deliver. Hard to blame anyone else, even with Jay's usual T.O. snafu end of 1st half.

I really hope they let him walk, and put that money into the trenches.

20/24 mil? no freakin way. Unless they can get him for 14-15M which they can't. Done with this choke artist. Still better than RG3 ofc, but is constantly missing wide open receivers for would be TD's. You don't reward those kind of mistakes with a Rogers or Big Ben type contract. Let the Browns or someone else take him.

I'd rather go with Colt next year for 1-2M. Let McCloughhy work his magic and see what happens.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by InsanePianist21

Went to 3 games this year



- vs. Dallas - He stunk up the joint missed on 3 deep balls that would've been TD's, definitely Kirk cost us that one.



- vs. Green Bay - Fun one to be at, but he looked mediocre until about 4 minutes to go



- vs. Carolina - He was Mark Sanchez.



Can't suffer through this anymore. Let him walk. He couldn't get us 2 TD's that would've sent us to Seattle. Pathetic. Our D really stepped up and Kirk couldn't deliver. Hard to blame anyone else, even with Jay's usual T.O. snafu end of 1st half.



I really hope they let him walk, and put that money into the trenches.



20/24 mil? no freakin way. Unless they can get him for 14-15M which they can't. Done with this choke artist. Still better than RG3 ofc, but is constantly missing wide open receivers for would be TD's. You don't reward those kind of mistakes with a Rogers or Big Ben type contract. Let the Browns or Rams take him.



I'd rather go with Colt next year for 1-2M. Let McCloughhy work his magic and see what happens.

I am pretty much leaning this way too. KC is not worth the money they are going to give him.
Scot working his magic though? I guess. Have not seen magic for the first couple years. Dude is firing blanks. There is really not a single player, coach, or front office guy that I consider magic right now.
That whole "there is a new attitude at Redskins Park " thing sounds nice but it is bullshit. This is the same mediocre team with the ability to switch gears and become piss poor at any moment that i have been watching for the last 20 something years.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I am pretty much leaning this way too. KC is not worth the money they are going to give him.
Scot working his magic though? I guess. Have not seen magic for the first couple years. Dude is firing blanks. There is really not a single player, coach, or front office guy that I consider magic right now.
That whole "there is a new attitude at Redskins Park " thing sounds nice but it is bullshit. This is the same mediocre team with the ability to switch gears and become piss poor at any moment that i have been watching for the last 20 something years.

Punch this is a great post and really sums up how a lot of people must feel right now. I don't know that we ever saw anything "different" this year - like you said, we have always been a team that can play great football but at a moments notice turns into a shit team from top to bottom. We are still consistently over matched, and out-coached week in and week out.

I like Jay but i get so tired of hearing him say every week "we were out coached". That's on HIM to fix, and so far he doesn't seem to be able to do it.

Question on Cousins - hearing lots of grumblings this morning on message board and twitter and the like that say the Skins are going to franchise tag him again - what will then be his price for Franchise tag #2, and can the Redskins keep tagging Cousins instead of signing him long-term?

[InsanePianist21]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I am pretty much leaning this way too. KC is not worth the money they are going to give him.
Scot working his magic though? I guess. Have not seen magic for the first couple years. Dude is firing blanks. There is really not a single player, coach, or front office guy that I consider magic right now.
That whole "there is a new attitude at Redskins Park " thing sounds nice but it is bullshit. This is the same mediocre team with the ability to switch gears and become piss poor at any moment that i have been watching for the last 20 something years.

I may be giving Scot too much credit, but I'd still continue to put my trust in him. He still has a better track record than anyone we've had in that position since Bobby, imo. Save the money at QB for now, and spend it on the lines.