Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-09-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Punch stop it man, we all know he wanted out.. Players inside the locker room (CT) and former players (cooley) all said he had no signs of wanting to stay. If you watch his doc on NFLN its clear he wanted that big payday more than staying with us. I am a big Cousins fan , I truly believe he was as good a QB as we have ever had, yes I mean ever had but that is not on Jay or Bruce. We went out and got a good QB not great to replace him

This is all I ever got from him. I used to wish him success, but it's clear we all fell for his "aw shucks, golly guys" routine. Maybe he is a super nice guy, but in the end, it wasn't the Skins fault for what he ended up doing to them. The Skins are maybe 25% to blame for not locking him up sooner, but beyond that, it's ALL on him.

When someone invokes God in the name of contracts, that's a problem...

punch it in · 10-09-2018, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Kirk didn't want to be here and I cant blame him, we had no other options man. Colt Mccoy? Cmon. Alex has been solid before last night.

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NC_Skins · 10-09-2018, 10:13 AM

I've been reserved to jumping on the whole "fire Jay" bandwagon the past couple years, but I think I've finally been persuaded. It's time to get rid of Jay Gruden at the end of the season. His teams have NO discipline whatsoever and it shows every single week regardless of a win or not. Penalties. Blown assignments. It happens over and over and over. At this point, you can't say it's on the players because no matter who the players we've cycled in and out, the common denominator is Jay Gruden.

A good speech from Brian Mitchell out it...

https://twitter.com/NBCSRedskins/sta...49585310846976

Lets take a look at his record:

2014- (4-12)
2015- (9-7) *won NFCE
2016- (8-7-1)
2017- (7-9)

Look at this. Here we are in year five and the dude STILL doesn't have this team to a playoff caliber level. Let's be real here. 2015 was a fucking fluke. You know it. I know it. Jay knows it. When you win your division with a 9-7 record, it tells you that division sucks. He's produce nothing but mediocrity regardless of the players that have been here. It's time we move on from this experiment. Too bad we let McVay go, he was the guy we needed to keep.

Also, Bruce needs to fucking go right along with Jay.

Ruhskins · 10-09-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I've been reserved to jumping on the whole "fire Jay" bandwagon the past couple years, but I think I've finally been persuaded. It's time to get rid of Jay Gruden at the end of the season. His teams have NO discipline whatsoever and it shows every single week regardless of a win or not. Penalties. Blown assignments. It happens over and over and over. At this point, you can't say it's on the players because no matter who the players we've cycled in and out, the common denominator is Jay Gruden.

A good speech from Brian Mitchell out it...

https://twitter.com/NBCSRedskins/sta...49585310846976

Lets take a look at his record:

2014- (4-12)
2015- (9-7) *won NFCE
2016- (8-7-1)
2017- (7-9)

Look at this. Here we are in year five and the dude STILL doesn't have this team to a playoff caliber level. Let's be real here. 2015 was a fucking fluke. You know it. I know it. Jay knows it. When you win your division with a 9-7 record, it tells you that division sucks. He's produce nothing but mediocrity regardless of the players that have been here. It's time we move on from this experiment. Too bad we let McVay go, he was the guy we needed to keep.

Also, Bruce needs to fucking go right along with Jay.

I'm not saying that we have a team as talented as last year's Rams, but getting rid of Jeff Fisher was the best thing that could have happened to that team.

I think we're on the same boat in terms of coaching.

DynamiteRave · 10-09-2018, 08:32 AM

I’m actually cool with bringing in Bryant. The team is fucked anyway. Might as well.

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mooby · 10-09-2018, 08:38 AM

2-14 on Monday night going back to 2008. What a shitshow.

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Originally Posted by The WaPo

The Redskins are 1-7 on Mondays under Gruden. They're 5-21 on Mondays this century. Last night was the 12th Monday night loss by double-digits in that span, the seventh by at least 20 points.

skinsfaninok · 10-09-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

2-14 on Monday night going back to 2008. What a shitshow.

How is that even possible? Unreal.

What is Jays record after a bye??

SFREDSKIN · 10-09-2018, 08:44 AM

I would much rather have had Case Keenum and kept Fuller and a 3rd rounder, I’ve seen plentyl of Smith and he’s no better than Case.

skinsfaninok · 10-09-2018, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would much rather have had Case Keenum and kept Fuller and a 3rd rounder, I’ve seen plentyl of Smith and he’s no better than Case.

Fuller hasn't been great at all this yr either, their Offense carries that team. Alex is far better than Keenum, we cant overreact after 1 bad night

SFREDSKIN · 10-09-2018, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Fuller hasn't been great at all this yr either, their Offense carries that team. Alex is far better than Keenum, we cant overreact after 1 bad night

Aren’t you the one who said this was a great trade and Smith is better than Cousins? That’s over reacting.

skinsfaninok · 10-09-2018, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Aren’t you the one who said this was a great trade and Smith is better than Cousins? That’s over reacting.

It was a great trade considering we needed a QB. I wanted Kirk all along as I said on here a bunch but we all knew he wasn't staying. But SF who else could we have gone out and signed? Sam Bradford? We had no choice. Alex will bounce back

Chico23231 · 10-09-2018, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would much rather have had Case Keenum and kept Fuller and a 3rd rounder, I’ve seen plentyl of Smith and he’s no better than Case.

Smith isn’t going anywhere, we got 2 more years of this garbage. Told everyone you better have a top running game with Alex at qb...when we run the ball he is effective.

He def doesn’t have the arm talent of Cousins...if you ever believed that you are a certified idiot

MTK · 10-09-2018, 08:43 AM

Alex isn't a QB that's going to win you many shoot-outs, especially in an offense he's clearly not fully comfortable in yet and with a OL that didn't give him solid protection.

rocnrik · 10-09-2018, 08:47 AM

Okay so how many think we will win next game ?? I actually get on here because some of you are optimistic and actually gave me some hope ... but the ugly truth is this is not a good team much less a playoff team .. now I’m sure some will say we can win the nfc east well keep dreaming .. this team has a coach that if fired today would be fine with me! The Cleveland browns right now are in a much better place than the redskins ..but I along with you guys will still tune in and pull for team but maybe the best thing to do is walk away let it hit rock bottom with empty stands and maybe just maybe dan will fire this staff including Bruce and get a real GM to turn it around

skinsfaninok · 10-09-2018, 08:51 AM

Carolina, Dallas , NYG and ATL

All are winnable games. If we can manage to go 3-1 in that span we can set up a playoff run.. 3 of 4 at home (which means nothing) but still

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10-09-2018, 10:13 AM	#3
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,602	Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread I've been reserved to jumping on the whole "fire Jay" bandwagon the past couple years, but I think I've finally been persuaded. It's time to get rid of Jay Gruden at the end of the season. His teams have NO discipline whatsoever and it shows every single week regardless of a win or not. Penalties. Blown assignments. It happens over and over and over. At this point, you can't say it's on the players because no matter who the players we've cycled in and out, the common denominator is Jay Gruden. A good speech from Brian Mitchell out it... https://twitter.com/NBCSRedskins/sta...49585310846976 Lets take a look at his record: 2014- (4-12) 2015- (9-7) *won NFCE 2016- (8-7-1) 2017- (7-9) Look at this. Here we are in year five and the dude STILL doesn't have this team to a playoff caliber level. Let's be real here. 2015 was a fucking fluke. You know it. I know it. Jay knows it. When you win your division with a 9-7 record, it tells you that division sucks. He's produce nothing but mediocrity regardless of the players that have been here. It's time we move on from this experiment. Too bad we let McVay go, he was the guy we needed to keep. Also, Bruce needs to fucking go right along with Jay. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

10-09-2018, 08:32 AM	#5
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread I’m actually cool with bringing in Bryant. The team is fucked anyway. Might as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

10-09-2018, 08:44 AM	#8
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread I would much rather have had Case Keenum and kept Fuller and a 3rd rounder, I’ve seen plentyl of Smith and he’s no better than Case. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-09-2018, 08:43 AM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,846	Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread Alex isn't a QB that's going to win you many shoot-outs, especially in an offense he's clearly not fully comfortable in yet and with a OL that didn't give him solid protection. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-09-2018, 08:47 AM	#14
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,789	Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread Okay so how many think we will win next game ?? I actually get on here because some of you are optimistic and actually gave me some hope ... but the ugly truth is this is not a good team much less a playoff team .. now I’m sure some will say we can win the nfc east well keep dreaming .. this team has a coach that if fired today would be fine with me! The Cleveland browns right now are in a much better place than the redskins ..but I along with you guys will still tune in and pull for team but maybe the best thing to do is walk away let it hit rock bottom with empty stands and maybe just maybe dan will fire this staff including Bruce and get a real GM to turn it around

10-09-2018, 08:51 AM	#15
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,192	Re: Post Dumpster Fire...er Skins vs. Saints Thread Carolina, Dallas , NYG and ATL All are winnable games. If we can manage to go 3-1 in that span we can set up a playoff run.. 3 of 4 at home (which means nothing) but still __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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