By Popular Demand. Should the Skins FIRE Jay Gruden? Thread

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I liked Scot but if he were still here what would we be doing differently? Our record would still be the same.

Scot sd the skins stuck to his draft board, except for 1 pick.

I burn to know who that one pick was. Ryan Anderson?

[skinsfaninok]

what happened to Anderson?

[skinsfaninok]

I'm so on the fence I can't even answer my own damn question

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

We were going places with Scot until Allen and Snyder stepped in it.

Preach.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm so on the fence I can't even answer my own damn question

I feel if you can get a proven guy like Harbaugh then you do it. If it's just another JAG then keep him.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I feel if you can get a proven guy like Harbaugh then you do it. If it's just another JAG then keep him.

We thought we had that guy in Mike Shanahan. The issue keeps going back to the front office. Without the right guy as GM, who is supposed to provide the atmosphere and culture the coach needs to succeed, then it's not going to work no matter who the Redskins get. Unless that guy is so well respected, like Joe Gibbs was, you're either going to have a power struggle between the proven Super Bowl winning head coach and Bruce Allen, or you're going to have a guy who is willing to work within the confines of what the front office says, even when the front office isn't making the best of decisions. I would probably put Jay Gruden within that category, although I think he was successful in convincing the front office that Kirk Cousins was better than RGIII.

You also have to have a guy who knows how to lead, even knows how to lead those who are over him. Joe Gibbs was great with this on his second venture as head coach. He knew how to convince those around him that what he felt was best for the team was what they also felt was best for the team. And even knew how to work with what he didn't always feel was best for the team. Guys, we're looking for another Joe Gibbs, and those guys are few and far between.

[skinsfaninok]

Redskins: -43 point differential in the 2nd half/OT this season (28th in NFL)

That is a HUGE coaching indicator, adjustments are not made period.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Redskins: -43 point differential in the 2nd half/OT this season (28th in NFL)

That is a HUGE coaching indicator, adjustments are not made period.

It's also an indicator that the team is getting physically tired because they're having to play so many minutes because there aren't enough healthy bodies.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It's also an indicator that the team is getting physically tired because they're having to play so many minutes because there aren't enough healthy bodies.

that is also a factor yes

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It's also an indicator that the team is getting physically tired because they're having to play so many minutes because there aren't enough healthy bodies.

Absolutely!

[Chico23231]

If you want to fire Jay, tell me the replacement

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

If you want to fire Jay, tell me the replacement

So true....

[mitch e]

nothing will change unless the FO goes with him!!

[DYoungJelly]

I hope they keep Jay. My two cents after sleeping on it.

I believe continuity is underrated in the NFL.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mredskins

So true....

I believe someone on one of these threads said that doing nothing just for the sake of not making a drastic change was also not an acceptable solution either.

I'm on the fence with Jay myself. I have said it before but I think he is like our version of Jeff Fisher. You aren't going to be abysmal, but you are never going to set the league on fire and go 12-4 or something like that. I think he is a career 7-9 / 8-8 kind of guy who once in a while will put a lucky streak together and maybe go 10-6, but with no type of consistency.