Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs. Colts)

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Exactly, the game only means something when we look bad.

Not only that, in games that we play well -- the only things that matter are what the skins did poorly. Yeah, sure beck was 14 for 17 but he didn't throw a TD.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Since we all agree Beck is not a pro-bowl QB,

Speak for yourself when you say "we". I on the other hand have no idea if Beck is going to be Pro-bowler or a Toilet Bowler. We don't have enough evidence to make a distinction either way at this point in time.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Speak for yourself when you say "we". I on the other hand have no idea if Beck is going to be Pro-bowler or a Toilet Bowler. We don't have enough evidence to make a distinction either way at this point in time.

I was trying to make a point but in your case never mind.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

I was trying to make a point but in your case never mind.

Sorry.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Speak for yourself when you say "we". I on the other hand have no idea if Beck is going to be Pro-bowler or a Toilet Bowler. We don't have enough evidence to make a distinction either way at this point in time.

Totally....looks good so far..........but more evidence is required.

[Chico23231]

im gonna be fairly disappointed if Beck doesnt start agains the Ravens. Ravens gonna bring a really good test.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

im gonna be fairly disappointed if Beck doesnt start agains the Ravens. Ravens gonna bring a really good test.

He almost has to start.

We know what we have in Grossman, if Shanahan is serious about starting Beck 9/11 he has to give him the nod this week.

[SmootSmack]

I can't imagine Beck not starting on Thursday

[MTK]

Didn't DM lead the league (or very close to it) in completed deep passes last year? How'd that work out for us?

[Lotus]

I wasn't talking about going deep all the time. Of course deep throws are low percentage. I believe I used the adjective "occasional."

I simply alluded to the fact that taking an occasional shot keeps the defense honest. We haven't really done that yet this year. And such shots can be taken safely, without much fear of a turnover. Many teams do this.

A lack of taking shots is only problematic if it is chronic. We haven't yet had a chance to see if it is chronic. But we haven't taken shots in the first two games - that is all that I was saying.

[NLC1054]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I wasn't talking about going deep all the time. Of course deep throws are low percentage. I believe I used the adjective "occasional."

I simply alluded to the fact that taking an occasional shot keeps the defense honest. We haven't really done that yet this year. And such shots can be taken safely, without much fear of a turnover. Many teams do this.

A lack of taking shots is only problematic if it is chronic. We haven't yet had a chance to see if it is chronic. But we haven't taken shots in the first two games - that is all that I was saying.

Rex took two shots versus the Steelers. The first one was on the play action bootleg to his left, where he had Davis open for the first down, but threw it deep to Stallworth in the end zone. It was incomplete. The second shot was on a pump and go to Santana Moss. Moss was double covered by the corner and the safety. Incomplete.

Versus the Colts, there was no point in "taking a shot to keep the defense honest", because the defense more or less bailed on being worried about the run game. In the whole time Beck was in the game, I count them blitzing twice (and on one, Beck hit Moss on a crossing pattern that resulted in a first down). Every other time, they dropped 7 guys into coverage and rushed the passer with 4 guys.

The Colts pretty much sold out the run by being totally committed to defending the deep pass. At that point, "taking a shot to keep the defense honest" is pointless, because the defense is pretty much giving you the run game and the ability to throw it short whenever you want it.

And it's funny, because last year, Kyle was accused of trying to go deep too often. Now he's accused of not trying to go deep enough. (Not by you, just in general).

How quickly things change...

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I wasn't talking about going deep all the time. Of course deep throws are low percentage. I believe I used the adjective "occasional."

I simply alluded to the fact that taking an occasional shot keeps the defense honest. We haven't really done that yet this year. And such shots can be taken safely, without much fear of a turnover. Many teams do this.

A lack of taking shots is only problematic if it is chronic. We haven't yet had a chance to see if it is chronic. But we haven't taken shots in the first two games - that is all that I was saying.

Some people are not convinced Beck can accurately throw deep, as a result it's an element of his game they're anxious to see. The time will come when he will have to prove he can.

[MTK]

Perhaps we just don't have enough of a sample size yet to make any accurate determinations regarding the deep game, or lack of one.

We haven't had many problems moving the ball so far, I'll take that over the all or nothing offense we mostly had last year.

[freddyg12]

I'm curious to see Beck play in general (missed Friday), but especially so to see him throw deep. There have been a lot of nfl qbs that are said to not have a "strong arm" but that doesn't mean they can't throw deep, it's just not as easy for them. From what I read about friday's game, he always had someone open so it wasn't an issue that he didn't go deep.

[NC_Skins]

I'd rather consistently go 80 yards in 10-15 plays, while moving the chains and controlling the clock, than to go 80 yards in a single play on occasions.