Smoke Signals: Rock Cartwright needs to get over it edition

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If I count right, he is 9th. There are 2 guys, one with 13, and one with 16 who are also above him, so I think it is safe to say he is in the top 3rd of the kickoff returners. I think that along with; with his #4 ranking in kickoff returns over 20yds, and no fumbles, and he is tied for the 10th spot in kickoff returns over 40 yds, and 7 of those guys (note 15 total including ties) did not have a TD return either - shows he is a top notch ST baller.

Thanks for the stats, and Id have to agree, although I still dont like his sudden attitude. He has definetely earned his spot, but he acts like someone has cheated him, and I think thats way off. He is a 5'7 guy who started as a fullback, he has carved a nice niche for himself, but he needs to keep quiet and keep ballin!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

one other stat, if you sort the list by number of KR's 20+yds, Rock is number 4. Number 1 has 3 fumbles, Number 2 and 3 have 1 fumble, and you guessed it Rock has 0 fumbles.

Excellent points.

[SBXVII]

If you look at the list and start with #8 cause that is where the KR's start having a good number of carries and go down the list eliminating all the single digit runs Rock is 12th. Thats where I would put him only cause I think D.Smith's scheme sucks.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

If you look at the list and start with #8 cause that is where the KR's start having a good number of carries and go down the list eliminating all the single digit runs Rock is 12th. Thats where I would put him only cause I think D.Smith's scheme sucks.

Well you are kinda playing numbers (i used 20+ carries, because that was the question, you used >9, which only adds 2 but drops him from top 10 to 11Tied, then you ignore the tie and just say he is 12th, even though with in the tie the stats aren't sorted by a secondary column),

Of the 4 guys who are tied for 11th:
1 guy has a 94 yd run, 28 20+ yard runs, 6 40+ yard runs
1 guy has a 93yd TD run, 27 20+ yard runs, 3 40+ yard runs
1 guy has a long of 88, 20 20+ yard runs, 3 40+ yard runs
1 guy has a long of 87, 38 20+ yard runs, 4 40+ yard runs

Which guy would you most want on your team based on these stats alone? play without peaking if you dare

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well you are kinda playing numbers (i used 20+ carries, because that was the question, you used >9, which only adds 2 but drops him from top 10 to 11Tied, then you ignore the tie and just say he is 12th, even though with in the tie the stats aren't sorted by a secondary column),

Of the 4 guys who are tied for 11th:
1 guy has a 94 yd run, 28 20+ yard runs, 6 40+ yard runs
1 guy has a 93yd TD run, 27 20+ yard runs, 3 40+ yard runs
1 guy has a long of 88, 20 20+ yard runs, 3 40+ yard runs
1 guy has a long of 87, 38 20+ yard runs, 4 40+ yard runs

Which guy would you most want on your team based on these stats alone? play without peaking if you dare

can't chose a guy just on numbers alone. there are other things to consider like game situation (can he be counted on to carry the load or is he only good in mop up duty) can he be an every down back, can he pass block, can he catch the ball etc...

[SBXVII]

Maybe if he even stepped up his game and started PRing he would get more carries.

[CRedskinsRule]

^^ remember the average per carry is the same for all 4

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

^^ remember the average per carry is the same for all 4

Id go with #4, and the 10 additional carries of 20+. So who did I pick?

[CRedskinsRule]

That would have been Rock (I am curious, did you look?)

[BigHairedAristocrat]

As far as i'm concerned, Rock Cartwright is keeping alot of younger players from seeing the field and receiving the same chance he got when he joined this team. He should be grateful to have a job now because this time next year, he may not.

[Longtimefan]

Last season when Rock tested the waters in FA I thought he had an inflated opinion of his actual value, not only to the Redskins but to any other team. Maybe he feels he's gradually being phased out.

[T.O.Killa]

I would have liked to see someone stand out and take Cartwight's job from him. He has been excellent returning kicks, but he is getting old and one dimensional.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I would have liked to see someone stand out and take Cartwight's job from him. He has been excellent returning kicks, but he is getting old and one dimensional.

You know unfortunatly I think they are now looking at Thomas for that roll. Just a feeling. Could be totally wrong.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

You know unfortunatly I think they are now looking at Thomas for that roll. Just a feeling. Could be totally wrong.

You might be right. We will see, but if Thomas becomes our returner, then Cartright's days will be numbered.

[doughtydoubter]

eh...i think 4 running backs is ridiculous myself, but i concede...somewhere we had to get some youth at the spot. 3 backs near 30 yrs old is never a recipe for success.
i can see us trading or parting ways with one of these guys soon