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[Southpaw]

Jeebus! I picked a hell of a time to come back. It's funny to me that no matter how shitty NFLsoft is to it's fan's, we just keep coming back for more. And I find it hard to believe that the Redskins front office had nothing to do with it...

[SkinEmAll]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

yeah I even mentioned that basic point, I said I wasn't aware I was doing anything wrong since every fan site out there uses logos and stuff. They said they are aware of it but they can only deal with them as issues come up, whatever that meant. They even asked me if there are sites out there I wanted to direct them to and I said nah, I'm definitely not interested in throwing others under the bus.

I think our highlight videos got their attention and things just snowballed.

Matty, the fact that they said 'as issues come up', tells me someone,(ES), made a complaint to them specifically, those bastards are jealous.

[airsoftking]

the NFL SUCKS!! they took down my vids on youtube and now that!!! They're going too far on copyrights and stuff like that. We're not doing anything wrong if we are using the skins logo on avatars or posting homemade videos. I wish we could react, but no way, all we can do is stick to the rules.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

Matty, the fact that they said 'as issues come up', tells me someone,(ES), made a complaint to them specifically, those bastards are jealous.

I really don't think they had anything to do with it. I think our highlight videos on warpathfilms may have raised the wrong eyebrows. That was the main gripe they had.

[jbcjr14]

Matty...DO NOT give up the domain redskinswarpath.net if YOU own it! Keep renewing it and put a 301 direct on it. If they want the domain, make them purchase it.

I see a WJLA on your side story with this one. I certainly understand the need to protect, but this is clearly petty and NOBODY here is using this stuff for profitable gains. I sense that this site was put in front of some people to make it "above the radar" and to those folks that may have done so can kiss my ass!

[airsoftking]

are we still allowed to write the word Redskins or do we have to type R******.

[12thMan]

I really think if we had the legal wherewithal to fight this, the NFL wouldn't stand a chance in hell. It's just that, in a situation like this, you have to weigh what's really important and simply move on.

Some fights just 'aint worth fighting.

[12thMan]

See, this is really making me upset now...

Here it is the NFL, who can't take care of it's on retired players adequately, and what do they do, snoop around the internet to see who's breaking the rules? Give me a break.

[diehardskin2982]

Snyder and his army of minions stikes again!!!! I think someone from the site that shall not be named was upset that more and more people are comming here and not going there. Clicks = big bucks, and although you've never proposed doing this if you were to take your click numbers and market them to a company to purpose advertising on the site, you would make a strong case. Just sale the site to snyder and make a couple million matty! (Just Kidding) I'm sorry to see the site get lowered with the smackdown, the growth over the past few years has been amazing!

[celts32]

I didn't realize that the site changed from thewarpath.net in the first place. I don't think these changes will have any affect on the site...no videos and logos is not a big deal.

[SmootSmack]

I think it's just dumb luck that we got singled out. But I have heard of other cases where it's happened. Either way the NFL has very strict rules about logos and online video use (including links), particularly when the league and official team sites are not credited. MLB is heading in that direction as well.

Trust me, it's extremely difficult and restrictive for me at work. It's an uphill climb to get permission for things so I can't imagine what it's like for Matty and a fan site.

NFL is protecting its brand the way it best sees fit. But again, we're going to be fine. Let's just take the high road on this and continue being the best fan site in the world.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jbcjr14

Matty...DO NOT give up the domain redskinswarpath.net if YOU own it! Keep renewing it and put a 301 direct on it. If they want the domain, make them purchase it.

I see a WJLA on your side story with this one. I certainly understand the need to protect, but this is clearly petty and NOBODY here is using this stuff for profitable gains. I sense that this site was put in front of some people to make it "above the radar" and to those folks that may have done so can kiss my ass!

I dunno, that's a very tricky area. If I had the resources to consult with an attorney it would be one thing, but I don't so I'm not sure how much of a fight I can put up or if it's even worth it.

At this point I'm feeling like I don't even want the name, they can just F'ing have it if that's the way they're going to be. I may see if I can work some sort of deal to keep a 301 redirect for at least a period of time so the search engine rankings don't plummet.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think it's just dumb luck that we got singled out. But I have heard of other cases where it's happened. Either way the NFL has very strict rules about logos and online video use (including links), particularly when the league and official team sites are not credited. MLB is heading in that direction as well.

Trust me, it's extremely difficult and restrictive for me at work. It's an uphill climb to get permission for things so I can't imagine what it's like for Matty and a fan site.

NFL is protecting its brand the way it best sees fit. But again, we're going to be fine. Let's just take the high road on this and continue being the best fan site in the world.

I can understand where the NFL is coming from, and I can respect that. But I think for me at least, this seems to be a growing narrative; Corporate America clashing with a growing internet culture - a community.

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like some of their liberties have been violated some?

[cpayne5]

I don't feel like any liberties have been violated (in the end, its theirs, no doubt - other than the domain), but I do feel like the NFL is just being a giant jerk about it. They need to realize that sites like these most likely do more good than harm to their image and bottom line. I would bet these little sites, by generating and promoting fanaticism, actually increase the league's revenue.

[rugged d]

you gotta do what ya gotta do i guess mattly will evolve us and lead us to greener pastures