Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!

[Cowell]

I believe I said this before in this thread, but Plaxico isn't a little guy. He is a big, physical receiver. Carlos is not a tackling machine he is a cornerback. Carlos was there to make the play, he just couldn't make the tackle Plaxico basically threw him to the side. The way I see it is, if Sean Taylor couldn't make the tackle (he got juked out by the same move somehow) then how should we expect Carlos to make it?

[redsk1]

Carlos has played pretty well so far this season. I think we need to chalk the Plax TD up to Plax making a great play. Plaxico is a really good reciever thats big and fast. He makes alot of Db's look bad.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Carlos has played pretty well so far this season. I think we need to chalk the Plax TD up to Plax making a great play. Plaxico is a really good reciever thats big and fast. He makes alot of Db's look bad.

You are one of the first one's to nail that. Whenever the Skins miss a tackle or fumble the ball or get stopped at the goal line, we immediately chalk it up to bad play on our part. We never give credit to the other team making great plays as if they don't come to play.

That was a damn good play by a very good, albeit sometimes inconsistent, wide receiver. Plax made a couple of good moves in space with a pass that was on the dime. That's all there is to it. He made a great play - game over.

[DirteePosse]

Now, back to B Lloyd. B Lloyd, the number 1 hip hop artist on the Redskins, is a talented receiver. His problem is, he doesn't agree with the game plan or the receiver coach. I know he hasn't done anything so far with the Redskins, but don't turn your back on B-boy Lloyd so fast. When he decides to put his differences away, he is capable of being a top number 2 receiver in the league. In closing, B-boy Lloyd needs to remember, that you can't sell a million records with the whole DC metropolitan area hating your guts.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by DirteePosse

Now, back to B Lloyd. B Lloyd, the number 1 hip hop artist on the Redskins, is a talented receiver. His problem is, he doesn't agree with the game plan or the receiver coach. I know he hasn't done anything so far with the Redskins, but don't turn your back on B-boy Lloyd so fast. When he decides to put his differences away, he is capable of being a top number 2 receiver in the league. In closing, B-boy Lloyd needs to remember, that you can't sell a million records with the whole DC metropolitan area hating your guts.

You are right, Lloyd is good number 2 wide receiver, then why did the Redskins sign Caldwell?

[DirteePosse]

TheBigD: B-boy Lloyd doesn't have his act together, so the Redskins needed someone who wants to listen and play. This whole thread is about where is B-boy Lloyd, he's clearly sitting on the bench collecting money. Everyone knows he's very gifted based off the articles he wrote about his training in the offseason. Why am I talking to you anyways, Cowboy fan?

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by DirteePosse

TheBigD: B-boy Lloyd doesn't have his act together, so the Redskins needed someone who wants to listen and play. This whole thread is about where is B-boy Lloyd, he's clearly sitting on the bench collecting money. Everyone knows he's very gifted based off the articles he wrote about his training in the offseason. Why am I talking to you anyways, Cowboy fan?

"Cowboys fan?" so what, we are all here to ask intelligent questions and respond in like. I am a member of a Cowboys forum and have discussions with Eagles and Giants fans as well as Redskins fans. The reason I joined this site is because I live in the DC area and TV stations here obviously show Redskins games and I am a fan of football before the Cowboys.

I know Lloyd is a gifted athlete and used to make circus type catches at SF, but like many talented players that come here, he has disappeared. Football is not like baseball where you can stick a good bat in your line up and have a better chance in winning. Baseball has one player at the plate, and to an extent, offensively baseball is an individual sport. That is not how it works in football. Dan thinks he can buy talent, which is true, but what he really needs to buy is chemistry.

[4mrusmc]

My whole thing with NFL contracts and the players union is this: How is it that you can sign a multi-million dollar contract, and not EARN your money? Why is it that a team will be penalized for a player who does not perform up to their contract? And by me saying penalized, I'm referrig to salary cap hits that a team would get for a player not performing up to that contract. This is why I feel that unions in general, are bad for buisness, and bad for the country. A player could essentially ruin a teams salary cap status and future, just by being a bad apple. I believe if you sign a contract with certain guidlines and expectations, and you do not meet those, you will no longer be employed at no consequence to your employer.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

My whole thing with NFL contracts and the players union is this: How is it that you can sign a multi-million dollar contract, and not EARN your money? Why is it that a team will be penalized for a player who does not perform up to their contract? And by me saying penalized, I'm referrig to salary cap hits that a team would get for a player not performing up to that contract. This is why I feel that unions in general, are bad for buisness, and bad for the country. A player could essentially ruin a teams salary cap status and future, just by being a bad apple. I believe if you sign a contract with certain guidlines and expectations, and you do not meet those, you will no longer be employed at no consequence to your employer.

While your arguments makes some sense, it lacks the point of view of the other side. Not having a union is just as bad. Now, imagine Lloyd being a good apple and plays well. Little later, the Redskins want to get rid of him, so they do not pass the ball to him and say he is not "performing up to his contract." No one can prove that they are not passing to him intentionally. That way they can get rid of older and aging guys for young talent and not have to pay them anything because they will not be "performing up to their contract."

The unions and laws are there for a reason.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by TheBigD

"Cowboys fan?" so what, we are all here to ask intelligent questions and respond in like. I am a member of a Cowboys forum and have discussions with Eagles and Giants fans as well as Redskins fans. The reason I joined this site is because I live in the DC area and TV stations here obviously show Redskins games and I am a fan of football before the Cowboys.

I know Lloyd is a gifted athlete and used to make circus type catches at SF, but like many talented players that come here, he has disappeared. Football is not like baseball where you can stick a good bat in your line up and have a better chance in winning. Baseball has one player at the plate, and to an extent, offensively baseball is an individual sport. That is not how it works in football. Dan thinks he can buy talent, which is true, but what he really needs to buy is chemistry.

Don't worry about being a cowboys fan, and ignore the poster who hated on you for that. We welcome anyone who brings civil discourse, which you clearly have been using.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Don't worry about being a cowboys fan, and ignore the poster who hated on you for that. We welcome anyone who brings civil discourse, which you clearly have been using.

Thank you, I do want to admit that this site has more intelligent posts and members than any other one I have been part of. There are those die-hard fans who won't accept a comment from fans of any other team, especially NFC east fans, after a loss but I have gotten used to them.

Thanks again.

[DirteePosse]

C'mon, TheBigD, I was just messing with you. I was more surprised that you even responded to that. Hell, half of my family are Cowboy fans.

You are absolutely right, the warpath fanbase definitely know a little something about football. That's why I signed up! Hopefully B-boy Lloyd and Jason Campbell went on a fishing trip together during the bye week to get a little chemistry.

[TheBigD]

Originally Posted by DirteePosse

C'mon, TheBigD, I was just messing with you. I was more surprised that you even responded to that. Hell, half of my family are Cowboy fans.

You are absolutely right, the warpath fanbase definitely know a little something about football. That's why I signed up! Hopefully B-boy Lloyd and Jason Campbell went on a fishing trip together during the bye week to get a little chemistry.

I am no mad or anything, it's all good.

I hope they did, because I want the Redskins to be the best team (check that, the second best team) in the NFC when they play the Cowboys. I am so sick of hearing analysts and co-workers telling me that the Cowboys haven't played a real team.

[firstdown]

I was just reading the clip about Gibbs getting ticked at the press. While reading that I saw that BL was practising today like he has been injured. Has he been injured and is that wher he has been as I have not heard this before. Who knows if Moss is down maybe just maybe BL can get going with JC.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I was just reading the clip about Gibbs getting ticked at the press. While reading that I saw that BL was practising today like he has been injured. Has he been injured and is that wher he has been as I have not heard this before. Who knows if Moss is down maybe just maybe BL can get going with JC.

BL was "kicked in the shin" a couple days ago & skipped practice yesterday. Guess it's a recurrence of his shin splints.

I don't see him getting ANY snaps this game. Even w/2 new guys.
Both Caldwell & Keenan are hungry to prove themselves, which is a welcome attitude for the team. Loyd is done, just a matter of time.