Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If the opening offer is $20M, and you know that McCartney's opening position is going to be $25M per year (which is just slightly higher than the tag), then it's very easy to see them coming together around $23M.



This deal gets done, guaranteed.

The guaranteed jack is where it's at anyway, as you are well aware

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

The guaranteed jack is where it's at anyway, as you are well aware

Absolutely. And that could be something that hangs the whole thing up, who knows.

I believe that Cousins likes Gruden and wants to be in DC. That's the whole underpinning of my belief that it all gets done. I think McCartney has done a terrific job of leaking things at just the right time to get the media all spun up, and the internet rumor machine in overdrive, that Cousins wants out.

I think it's all BS. I wholeheartedly believe he wants to be here with Jay. And I wholeheartedly believe his wife Julie wants to be here. And I think, behind closed doors, he has told McCartney to get the Skins up as high as you can by any means necessary, and if they get in the ballpark then I'll sign.

And you're right, if the 'Skins don't get into the ballpark in terms of fair guaranteed money, then it could all fall apart. But I don't think that will happen, I think they know this negotiation is high stakes and for real now, and they won't screw it up.

July 15 is a ways away, and there's no reason for either side to cave yet. I think the combine ends having made some progress, but still a gap. But they get there by July.

[hutch17]

20mm sounds low for an opener but who knows it could 4 years fully garaunteed, or it could be heavily front loaded so this year and next he makes 27 and the final two is much lower that way he gets the big money up front but the average is lower. Who knows the details on such a small amount of information.

This gets done.

[Schneed10]

I think $20M is right if your intent is to meet in the middle at $22.5 or $23.0.

If I were Schaffer I would have started in the exact same spot.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think $20M is right if your intent is to meet in the middle at $22.5 or $23.0.

If I were Schaffer I would have started in the exact same spot.

At least at 20M a year they are negotiating !

Cooley strongly believes that last year the first offer made by the Redskins was so lower than KC expected and KC's first counter offer was so much higher than the Redskins expected there was no negotiation to speak of.

I'm also thinking, on top of figuring out huge numbers, all this time, hesitations, leaking and drama helped the team get a sense of how the fanbase would react.
Like "ok we can pay him big money and not look like fools getting robbed"...

Do you think than can be any kind of a factor, or not at all?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

At least at 20M a year they are negotiating !

Cooley strongly believes that last year the first offer made by the Redskins was so lower than KC expected and KC's first counter offer was so much higher than the Redskins expected there was no negotiation to speak of.

I'm also thinking, on top of figuring out huge numbers, all this time, hesitations, leaking and drama helped the team get a sense of how the fanbase would react.
Like "ok we can pay him big money and not look like fools getting robbed"...

Do you think than can be any kind of a factor, or not at all?

I doubt they give a rat's ass what the fans think. Once again, I'm happy to help you increase your stock of American vernacular phrases.

I hear that some people over there would like Obama to run for President of France. I'd like him to move to France, also.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I doubt they give a rat's ass what the fans think. Once again, I'm happy to help you increase your stock of American vernacular phrases.

I hear that some people over there would like Obama to run for President of France. I'd like him to move to France, also.

Good, I'd rather have them not worry about the noise. They've enough on their plate.
But I was thinking with all the money depending on fan happiness (tickets, merchandising etc...) that might be taken in consideration to some extent.

Thanks for the rat's ass, knew it but had forgotten about it ^^

As for Obama... We have a saying "l'herbe est toujours plus verte chez le voisin" = "your neighbour's grass always looks greener than yours".


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[mooby]

22 or 23 is absolutely fine by me. 25+ I would have to reconsider.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

22 or 23 is absolutely fine by me. 25+ I would have to reconsider.

That is what I am thinking. $25 million would be my ceiling. I think he will improve over last season, but he really has to rise to the occasion when he gets some real heat to make $25+. I love the guy, but he needs to hang in there when things get a bit rough.

[metalskins]

I think the easy part is getting the yearly base salary down. Probably just figuring out the guaranteed money part of the deal and how to back-load the deal so that the worst part hits in higher cap years.

I also think a deal will get done, unless a trade offer is such that they can't refuse.

[CRedskinsRule]

As long as both sides are realistic it really ought to be "easy". My concern is whether both sides are.

[Irrefutable]

KC probably wants to know if he will have any WRs to throw to. All this stuff about liking the coaches and knowing the system is moot, if there is no one to throw to.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

KC probably wants to know if he will have any WRs to throw to. All this stuff about liking the coaches and knowing the system is moot, if there is no one to throw to.

He has at a minimum Reed, Crowder, Davis, likely Doctson, andheck even Ryan Grant, then you add Chris Thompson in. I don't think targets are an issue in his mind, especially if he believes it is his ability that has lifted the receiving corps.

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

He has at a minimum Reed, Crowder, Davis, likely Doctson, andheck even Ryan Grant, then you add Chris Thompson in. I don't think targets are an issue in his mind, especially if he believes it is his ability that has lifted the receiving corps.

Grant is worthless, and you forgot Maurice Harris in there. He probably will make the team before Grant. Also, don't be too surprised if we draft a WR, so Kirk might have a shiny new addition to the fold.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

He has at a minimum Reed, Crowder, Davis, likely Doctson, andheck even Ryan Grant, then you add Chris Thompson in. I don't think targets are an issue in his mind, especially if he believes it is his ability that has lifted the receiving corps.

Davis is a free agent, Doctson is big question mark, Crowder is very good, but he is not PG or DJ.

I would sign Brandon Marshall (2015 stats 100+ receptions and 1,500. yds) obviously QB problems in 2016... the Jets did not want to spend close to $10 million... the Redskins should