Ukraine mega thread

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The last 2 years of the Ukraine war has not gone well for the Ukrainians. It hasn’t been a stalemate, Russia has made gains and taken strategic strongholds.

And it looks, to most reasonable people, that it would take a larger, multi national force to reclaim the land lost to Russia

Are you committing troops or you good with Russian continued advance deeper into Ukraine on our tab?

Since peace apparently isn’t an option with anyone here

Surrender isn't either. Russia started this and from your own admission the Ukrainians have been giving a good fight against a much bigger opponent. chico if the Colonist in the 1700's here in the US thought like you do we still be part of England. Face it you're a Bad American.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Surrender isn't either. Russia started this and from your own admission the Ukrainians have been giving a good fight against a much bigger opponent. chico if the Colonist in the 1700's here in the US thought like you do we still be part of England. Face it you're a Bad American.

So no peace treaty?

Who is France in your analogy, you know one of the top 3 military powers at the time of the Revolutionary War who had boots on the ground?


If Trump committed troops, the same people here saying don’t abandon Ukraine would be crying about how trump had just started a 3rd world war. But if we continue to operate bau with the current Biden strategy which is losing ground everyday to Russia…then they will cry Trump lost the Ukraine war

Peace is the only option

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So no peace treaty?

Who is France in your analogy, you know one of the top 3 military powers at the time of the Revolutionary War who had boots on the ground?


If Trump committed troops, the same people here saying don’t abandon Ukraine would be crying about how trump had just started a 3rd world war. But if we continue to operate bau with the current Biden strategy which is losing ground everyday to Russia…then they will cry Trump lost the Ukraine war

Peace is the only option

Here's an idea don't kiss up to the shit that started it. do you understand the Ukrainian people don't want to give their Country to Russia and Putin. Not one of your stupid scenario's mentions Russia backing off.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Here's an idea don't kiss up to the shit that started it. do you understand the Ukrainian people don't want to give their Country to Russia and Putin. Not one of your stupid scenario's mentions Russia backing off.

Tell me the alternative then? What do you mean Russia back off?

…this war started with Biden and he had his entire administration to wage it.

Remember, Biden and EU did NOT give Ukraine an option to allow them into NATO. That’s NOT an option now either. So don’t fret over a existing Biden policy

[MTK]

Russia needs to get fucked and leave Ukraine alone

[CRedskinsRule]

Understand that if you support Pres. Trump's position on Ukraine, you are siding with Russia, N. Korea, Nicaraugua and others. Even China abstained instead of voting with Russia.

So congratulations, you have accomplished what Hillary and Barack only dreamed of, a reset of relations wxth the worlds dictators and it only cost giving up on our allies, ideals and those we pledged to protect.


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[Chico23231]

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/44119

Not only have military leaders explained it not possible to reclaim Russian gains but Zylinkski himself in December:

The Constitution of Ukraine prohibits us from doing this. De facto, these territories are now controlled by the Russians. We don’t have the strength to bring them back,” Zelensky told Le Parisien, a French newspaper.


Europe has fucked this up from day 1 and they want zero to do with Ukraine in NATO. But I have a hard time believe Ukraine who has been in strategic retreat the last two years can reclaim any territory without our boots on the ground or a multinational EU force.

Would you support anyone jumping into the war for Ukraine?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/44119



Not only have military leaders explained it not possible to reclaim Russian gains but Zylinkski himself in December:



The Constitution of Ukraine prohibits us from doing this. De facto, these territories are now controlled by the Russians. We don’t have the strength to bring them back,” Zelensky told Le Parisien, a French newspaper.





Europe has fucked this up from day 1 and they want zero to do with Ukraine in NATO. But I have a hard time believe Ukraine who has been in strategic retreat the last two years can reclaim any territory without our boots on the ground or a multinational EU force.



Would you support anyone jumping into the war for Ukraine?

Question:

When Iraq invaded Kuwait did you support Bush 1 sending US troops? ( I signed up for the Army the week the air war began. )

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Question:

When Iraq invaded Kuwait did you support Bush 1 sending US troops? ( I signed up for the Army the week the air war began. )

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I was too young to have an informed opinion but I remember most people supported US involvement

Oh wow that’s pretty cool! Thank you for your service

[mooby]

I support the US selling weapons and whatever else Ukraine needs to defend itself. Does that mean boots on the ground? No. But this idea that we are just giving away aid for free is asinine.

Trump is a Putin bootlicker. Yes you can mock me all you want but there's a reason Trump turned to Russia for money when no banks would touch him. There's a specific reason they have private conversations without translaters/recorders in the room. Anyways I said my piece.

[CRedskinsRule]

Polish FM at the UN. Worth a listen

https://x.com/ManiamAkash/status/189...541448222?s=19

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[Giantone]

trump being an asshole ..............................

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1...%3Fpage%3D1258

[GridIron26]

Trump and Vance are slowly destroying USA' relationships with allies... I saw a longer clip of the conversation between Trump, Vance and Zelenskiy - it's just embarrassing for USA. Kudos to Zelenskiy for not caving into the pressure.

[Giantone]

trump is disgusting as is Vance.

[MTK]

They’re both fucking bozos, so embarrassing